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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2025 4:52 pm
by SysTech_Larry
If you have corrupted firmware, you will want to replace the TV while it is still new.

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2025 3:11 pm
by chileboy
The Robman wrote:I am interested because I've never heard of RMIR doing that before, and I am having trouble believing that it's doing it now. We can leave it as is, and I'll just assume it's user error, or you can post the files as I requested, and I'll look into it.
Makes sense - I've uploaded it here.

To recap - to see what I'm talking about:

Devices tab
New
OK
Open and select the Roku 4.251 upgrade
Open
OK

This is Windows 10, RM Setup Editor (RMIR) v3.2.0

Curious what you find.

Thanks

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2025 7:11 pm
by The Robman
I added the upgrade, and nothing unusual happened.
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... e_id=27248

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 2:20 pm
by chileboy
The Robman wrote:I added the upgrade, and nothing unusual happened.
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... e_id=27248
Well, I don't know what's going on but here's a video that I captured from my screen which clearly shows what I'm talking about (sorry, I tried to upload it to the Diagnostics area but it was too big even after zipping).

Unless I'm hallucinating, it's behaving on my computer exactly as I've described.

I started by opening the same RMIR file I uploaded here yesterday and then this upgrade - which I redownloaded just to be sure.

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:49 pm
by The Robman
What version of RMIR are you using? I'm using v3.1.14, which is a couple of versions out-of-date.

I think Graham will have to speak to this.

Just out of curiosity, did you try opening the RMIR file that I created, and if so, are the 2 Roku upgrades look ok to you?

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:18 pm
by chileboy
From "About": RM Setup Editor (RMIR) v3.2.0

Yes, I opened the RMIR you sent and everything looked fine - although I didn't actually test anything tbh - but the protocol parameters appeared correct. Out of curiosity, I deleted the Roku 4.251 device and re-added it, and it displayed the same behavior as in my video.

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:29 pm
by The Robman
I just downloaded v3.2.0 and tried it again and it still works fine. Could it be your Java version? When I go to Help > About I see that I have java.version = "20.0.1"

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:35 pm
by chileboy
Rob, I just shut down my PC (sending this from my phone) and heading out - I'll check that in the a.m.

Thanks

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:43 am
by chileboy
The Robman wrote:I just downloaded v3.2.0 and tried it again and it still works fine. Could it be your Java version? When I go to Help > About I see that I have java.version = "20.0.1"
Is this on Windows 10? Because when I look at "About" in the Java Control Panel it says "Version 8 Update 451 (build 1.8.0_451-b10)"

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and if I "Check for updates" it says "You already have the latest Java platform on this system". Am I looking in the wrong place?

I do remember updating it in the last few months for some other app.

UPDATE: It looks like I do have the latest Java runtime, which is Version 8 as opposed to the Developer release (which is at v.24).

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 4:46 pm
by The Robman
I was asking which version of Java that RMIR is using.

In RMIR, go to Help > About > then scroll down to System Properties

System Properties:
java.version = "20.0.1"
java.vendor = "Oracle Corporation"
os.name = "Windows 10"
os.arch = "amd64"

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2025 4:59 am
by mathdon
chileboy wrote:Is this on Windows 10? Because when I look at "About" in the Java Control Panel it says "Version 8 Update 451 (build 1.8.0_451-b10)" and if I "Check for updates" it says "You already have the latest Java platform on this system". Am I looking in the wrong place?
Please see Guide to Java Versions and Features, which is also listed in the links at the end of the RMIR v3.2 Announcement. Oracle made major changes to Java, including its licensing rules, with the advent of Java 9. There is now only the Developer jdk, a separate run-time ended with Java 8, so if you want the latest Java then it is Java 24. I am currently using Java 24 for RMIR but RMIR is still built with Java 8 so that it will run with any Java from Java 8 onwards.

I strongly recommend that you update to Java 24, or indeed any of the more recent versions.

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:07 am
by chileboy
The Robman wrote:I was asking which version of Java that RMIR is using.

In RMIR, go to Help > About > then scroll down to System Properties

System Properties:
java.version = "20.0.1"
java.vendor = "Oracle Corporation"
os.name = "Windows 10"
os.arch = "amd64"
Oh, sorry - this is what I see:

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So I guess I am fine there.
mathdon wrote:I strongly recommend that you update to Java 24, or indeed any of the more recent versions.
SysTech_Larry wrote:The Java Update tab is telling me (yesterday) that 8 is the highest version available. And I thought that I added a higher version, but I do not see it.
I may be wrong, but t appears to me that the JRE is numbered differently than the SDK and that v.8 is indeed the latest.

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:14 am
by chileboy
chileboy wrote:I may be wrong, but t appears to me that the JRE is numbered differently than the SDK and that v.8 is indeed the latest.
I take that back, I just found this page.

I'm tied up right now but should I try installing that later or hold off for now, since v.8 is supposed to be fine? And why doesn't the "Update now" button in the Java CP find the newer version?

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:30 am
by The Robman
It looks like your version of Java is up to date, and more up to date than mine, so I don't think that's it. You'll need Graham's help to sort this one out.

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2025 11:50 am
by mathdon
chileboy wrote:And why doesn't the "Update now" button in the Java CP find the newer version?
Because Oracle changed everything from Java 9 onward, including any links such as "Update now".