oneforall Light Control Starter Kit with Dreambox V5 Remote

asphaltdancer · Post by **asphaltdancer** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:31 pm

ok next question!

if i want use Plug2, Plug3,....
which HEX Numbers I must change in the Protocol?

binky123 · Post by **binky123** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:56 pm

There is an instruction AA 80 that does ORA #80h in the protocol. This just ORs 80h to the device upgrade hex byte(i.e. 07 becomes 87). It might be easier to just change the instruction to AA 00 and then modify the hex bytes to be 87, 86. You can then add in other hex bytes like 47,46 for Plug2; C7,C6 for Plug3; 27,26 for Plug4. The top nibble value is from reversing the bits in the Plug#(0011 -> 1100, 0101 -> 1010).

Upgrade protocol 0 = 00 FD (HCS08) OFA Light Control URC-8308
20 15 22 47 11 85 40 04 08 00 B3 02 1C 00 B3 02
1C 15 CC 02 18 00 B4 B6 61 AA 00 9D B7 61 55 76
35 8A 55 78 35 8C 3C AE 55 70 35 92 55 72 35 94
3C AF 6E 07 57 AD 12 3B 57 FB 6E 2F 69 AD 0A 3A
69 27 05 CD FF 92 25 F5 81 6E 02 56 CD FF 5F 3B
56 FA 81
End

Upgrade Code 0 = 10 00 (TV/0030) OneForAll Light Kit Home Auto/1000
FD 00 E1 00 47 46 C7 C6 27 26 A7 A6 67 66 87 86
86 87 86
End

asphaltdancer · Post by **asphaltdancer** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:27 pm

now i have two devices attached and it works fine!
thank you for your help!

If I understand it right, with the Protocol i could use 15 Devices now.
to use more devices I must make a new Protocol as example with "AA 01" (Range is AA 00 to AA FF)
so I could max use 255 Devices (reminds me of IP Protocol)
are I'm right?

the harder part (for me to understand) is to make new Device Upgrade Codes,
FD 00 => this is the Protocol
E1 00 => ? I think this must be something for the buttons on the remote
47 => Device X on
46 => Device X off

binky123 · Post by **binky123** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:45 pm

If you want to use more than 15 devices, you can adjust the fixed data in the device upgrade.

FD = Protocol ID
00 = number table (not used)
E1 = Bitmap of what buttons on remote are defined. first bit is Numbers. 2nd bit is Volume keys, next is Channel keys. I used all keys so top nibble is E.
00 = Fixed Data. For next device upgrade, use 80(Auto/1001). Next is 40(Auto/1002) and then C0, 20, A0, 60, E0, 10. I think number is similar to the plug# address.

You can use up to 15 plug #s. Just put the hex data in top nibble of byte. Plug2 is 4 so 47 ON, 46 OFF. Normally you use RM or KM to create device upgrade codes which assigns functions codes to each button.

No need to modify the protocol code. Max devices is 15x15=225.

asphaltdancer · Post by **asphaltdancer** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:53 pm

I have a new Dreambox with a new Remote => Dreambox V6 URC-39931 RJ0
with this Remote i don't get my oneforall Light Kit working

when I take a look in IR to the same protocol Upgrade it looks different.
do I have to change anything to get this working?

Post by **vickyg2003** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:10 pm

Your old remote was a JP1.2 remote and needed a protocol formatted for the Motorola machine language, this remote is a JP1.3 remote and needs a protocol that has been written in the Samsung language.

I didn't see a link to your upgrade in this thread. Could you post a link to your upgrade so that we can take a look at what's different?

asphaltdancer · Post by **asphaltdancer** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:21 pm

which Upgrade do you mean? or do you mean the *.ir File?
the only Upgrade i have is this:

Upgrade protocol 0 = 00 FD (HCS08) OFA Light Control URC-8308
20 15 22 47 11 85 40 04 08 00 B3 02 1C 00 B3 02
1C 15 CC 02 18 00 B4 B6 61 AA 00 9D B7 61 55 76
35 8A 55 78 35 8C 3C AE 55 70 35 92 55 72 35 94
3C AF 6E 07 57 AD 12 3B 57 FB 6E 2F 69 AD 0A 3A
69 27 05 CD FF 92 25 F5 81 6E 02 56 CD FF 5F 3B
56 FA 81
End

Upgrade Code 0 = 10 00 (TV/0030) OneForAll Light Kit Home Auto/1000
FD 00 E1 00 47 46 C7 C6 27 26 A7 A6 67 66 87 86
86 87 86
End

binky123 · Post by **binky123** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:23 am

That Light protocol has to be rewritten for the Samsung processor. I think I've only seen the Light protocol used on the Kameleon's(JP1.2).

Post by **vickyg2003** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:55 am

Hey Binky, I noticed that you did some modifications to this protocol, do you happen to have any commented source for this protocol?

Also is there a list of function names so we can create a proper KM file for this upgrade?

tennessee titan · Post by **tennessee titan** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:55 pm

IMHO: If you want Light Control, buy the X10 stuff. It is cheap and reliable.
x10.com

asphaltdancer · Post by **asphaltdancer** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:57 pm

I know the X10 stuff is cheap but not easy to find in Germany (and with the shipping costs and 19% tax it is not cheap.

the oneforall stuff is working and the light dimmer is very good because after dimming the light no noise could be heared.
other products i have tested are louder.

so it would be nice if someone could make a KM File for this.

Post by **vickyg2003** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:26 pm

you need a protocol.

Normally I work on protocols for the HCS08 processor, but I've downloaded this and will have a look. If it falls off my radar again, don't hesitate to bump the thread.

Oh and if I do get it running, you are going to "owe" me. I want an explanation of "asphalt dancer" because it conjers up all sorts of images

Barf · Post by **Barf** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:32 pm

Somehow I have not discovered this thread until now. Actually, in 2008 I wrote an article in a German forum on this. There I show that it is actually compatible with the, in Europe, fairly widespread RF controlled switches from Intertechno. These are also available in Europe using several other names, Düwi,... The Intertechno stuff (with the exception of the most recent products) has a house code A to P, and a device address 1 to 16 (just like X10...). They have a 16 position switch for the house code, and one for the device address. They have only the two commands power_on and power_off; these are also used when dimming. The "Home Command Control Center" is nothing else but an IR->RF converter, transforming 950nm light into 433MHz radio, preserving the 36 kHz modulation. It is functionally equivalent to half of a IR extension using RF, like the well known Marmitek "pyramides".

The "Home control receiver" does not use mechanical rotary switches, but electronic memory (flash?). The "learning procedure" is nothing but assigning house number and device address.

Newer Intertechno equipment uses a more modern selection than the really quite anacronistic 16-housenumbers-16 deviceaddresses scheme.

The 16 different "devices" in, e.g. the URC-7781 are for the 16 different house numbers. 2200 for "A", 2201 for "B", and so on.

The protocol as such is also well known. Here is a file in my own "xirp"-notation". And here is all the 512 possible IR commands in Pronto CCF format. On Remotecentral there is also a Javascript CCF-code generator to be downloaded.

Just one more detail: Usage of 433 MHz equipment to the west of the Atlantic is not legal, just as well as using 315 MHZ equipment to the east of it, as far as I am aware.

Bengt

Post by **vickyg2003** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:42 pm

Binky did the lions share of the work for this. Give this a shot

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=9376

eferz · Post by **eferz** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:53 pm

The Robman wrote:I based my assumptions on the fact that there's a URC-8305 Kameleon in the pic and when I opened the manual for that remote it explicitly says that it controls the OFA light kit and the only setup code available in that particular remote is 0167.

In case anyone is still curious about this mystery, it looks like the One For All HC-8000 and HC-8010 uses a kind of a funky X-10 variant where are listed as invalid. Whereas the HC-8030 isn't even recognized by IR Scope.

HC-8000 and HC-8010
ICT file: http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... e_id=10478

HC-8300
ICT File: http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... e_id=10479

EDIT: Opps, never mind. Somehow I missed that this thread had multiple pages. Looks like Vicky and Blinky already created an upgrade for the HC-80xx series. I'm probably just opening up a can of worms with the HC-8300.