I've had a chance to surf and found a Panasonic upgrade that might be of use to you. This one had some discretes. Including a discrete on and discrete off that may help with the power on situation.
Again this one uses the CD Panasonic Combo which is a little more intuitive. I had gone to look at your last rdmu file, but your files are being blocked by my browser.
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=5083
Struggling to assign extender's long keypress to URC-7781
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I'm not a big one for actually building an RDMU file or a KM from scratch. I tend to open someone else's similar upgrade and then make the changes that I need from there. Choosing which Panasonic protocol to use is a bit of a challenge.
I was able to get your file to download. The reason you are having trouble following what I was saying about the "long power" command is because you are using the Panasonic protocol. and I was talking about gesting using the Panasonic Combo.
I think when you captured your learns, you missed a detail. Not all of the keys had the same SUBDEVICE, although I could be wrong. But most of the Panasonic upgrades seem to use multiple subdevices, like the TV/0650 did. For example, I'm pretty sure that when you look at your ASPECT learn, its going to be subdevice 4.
The different subdevices is why you'd use a Combo protocol of some kind, like the other guys did.
But before you go trying a long keypress for the ON, you might want to see if a single key press of Power On will actually turn on your TV
Discrete On = subdevice 0, OBC 22.
I found the Panasonic Combo to be the most intuitive of the choices.
So take a look at these two upgrades and try out the discretes.
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=5083
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=5498
Good Luck
I was able to get your file to download. The reason you are having trouble following what I was saying about the "long power" command is because you are using the Panasonic protocol. and I was talking about gesting using the Panasonic Combo.
I think when you captured your learns, you missed a detail. Not all of the keys had the same SUBDEVICE, although I could be wrong. But most of the Panasonic upgrades seem to use multiple subdevices, like the TV/0650 did. For example, I'm pretty sure that when you look at your ASPECT learn, its going to be subdevice 4.
The different subdevices is why you'd use a Combo protocol of some kind, like the other guys did.
But before you go trying a long keypress for the ON, you might want to see if a single key press of Power On will actually turn on your TV
Discrete On = subdevice 0, OBC 22.
I found the Panasonic Combo to be the most intuitive of the choices.
So take a look at these two upgrades and try out the discretes.
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=5083
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=5498
Good Luck
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Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.
Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.
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I downloaded Ian's file, changed it to rmdu, loaded up RDF files (not sure if correct), changed Panasonic to Panasonic combo, added few power code ideas and instructions how to use
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=7701
It's likely this file will not work all/any functions (all subdevice 0) but we don't know what the functions should be since we haven't seen the learning file.
Ian, we still don't know what your TV needs. These are all best guesses to far. If you don't use what Vicky supplied, try this modification of your file and report back. Perhaps what I wrote on the Setup sheet will help you get going with RM and IR.
Edited: Ian, when you put all this into IR, make sure to change TV setup code to 1650 on the General tab.
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=7701
It's likely this file will not work all/any functions (all subdevice 0) but we don't know what the functions should be since we haven't seen the learning file.
Ian, we still don't know what your TV needs. These are all best guesses to far. If you don't use what Vicky supplied, try this modification of your file and report back. Perhaps what I wrote on the Setup sheet will help you get going with RM and IR.
Edited: Ian, when you put all this into IR, make sure to change TV setup code to 1650 on the General tab.
Liz
Tweeking 8910, HTPro/9811, C7-7800, 6131o, 6131n, AtlasOCAP-1056B01, RCA-RCRP05B and enjoying the ride
Tweeking 8910, HTPro/9811, C7-7800, 6131o, 6131n, AtlasOCAP-1056B01, RCA-RCRP05B and enjoying the ride
Bingo!!!
Thanks Vicky and Liz and all you other stars.
I jumped to Liz's file and all 3 power ons do the job (the discrete on, the long discrete on and the long power toggle).
If you don't mind, I'd like to spend today building that properly into my existing setup and creating the macro that will allow all the odd visitors here over Christmas to switch on and watch normal things without accidentally screwing up any recordings or fancy stuff I may have going on in the background.
But either later on today, or more likely next week, I would like to compile a debrief post to help others and indeed to provide answers to all the questions in this thread that have been left in the air because of our fastpath success. And then, as Liz previously suggested, the thread should somehow be moved to the General Forum or pointed to from there.
I obviously also need to acquaint myself with the process of posting files properly to the forum.
If anyone wants to list the questions they would like to see cleared up and/or the files they'd like to see posted I'll take them onboard in my follow up.
Once again thanks for everything so far - JP1 is fun and JP1-ers are great people.
Happy Christmas
Ian
Thanks Vicky and Liz and all you other stars.
I jumped to Liz's file and all 3 power ons do the job (the discrete on, the long discrete on and the long power toggle).
If you don't mind, I'd like to spend today building that properly into my existing setup and creating the macro that will allow all the odd visitors here over Christmas to switch on and watch normal things without accidentally screwing up any recordings or fancy stuff I may have going on in the background.
But either later on today, or more likely next week, I would like to compile a debrief post to help others and indeed to provide answers to all the questions in this thread that have been left in the air because of our fastpath success. And then, as Liz previously suggested, the thread should somehow be moved to the General Forum or pointed to from there.
I obviously also need to acquaint myself with the process of posting files properly to the forum.
If anyone wants to list the questions they would like to see cleared up and/or the files they'd like to see posted I'll take them onboard in my follow up.
Once again thanks for everything so far - JP1 is fun and JP1-ers are great people.
Happy Christmas
Ian
Ian, I've been watching this thread with interest and a certain amount of puzzlement. I didn't contribute since I had nothing to add to all the excellent help you have been getting, culminating in a successful outcome. But the puzzlement has won out - I have a question to which I would love to know the answer.
Right at the beginning you wrote:
Please be aware that although the unextended remote and the extender both have macros, they work very differently from one another. If you hold down a macro key in the unextended remote, there is no repeat action. If you do it in the extender, there is a repeat action on the last key in the macro. The macros may have identical keystrokes in them, but their behaviour differs.
Merry Christmas to you all!
Graham
Right at the beginning you wrote:
I take this to mean that that the power button on code T0650 does turn the TV on if you hold it pressed from 1-2 seconds. You then wrote:Amongst my kit is a Panasonic Television TX-L32G10B which responds to setup code T0650 on my URC-7781 and which needs the power on button pressed for 1-2 seconds to switch on.
As this discussion was initially about my extender for the URC-7781, I took that to mean that you had created a macro with my extender in which the last key of the macro was the power key of the T0650 code. I can see no way that can fail to work. Can you please confirm that is what you did, and that it did not work when you held the macro key down. Doing this should mean that at the end of the macro, the URC-7781 is running exactly the same code as it does when you hold down the power button of T0650 in the ordinary way. If this really doesn't work, I will want to look again into what my extender is doing, in case I misunderstand how it is working.I've tried putting the power button at the end of a macro and keeping the button held but to no avail.
Please be aware that although the unextended remote and the extender both have macros, they work very differently from one another. If you hold down a macro key in the unextended remote, there is no repeat action. If you do it in the extender, there is a repeat action on the last key in the macro. The macros may have identical keystrokes in them, but their behaviour differs.
Merry Christmas to you all!
Graham
Hello Graham
Yes, the power button on the URC-7781 for TV with setup code 0650 turns the TV on if pressed for 1-2 seconds.
And, yes, I created a macro with your extender in which the last key of the macro was the power key of the T0650 code. And, yes indeed, if I pressed the macro key for 1-2 seconds it did the same as the URC-7781 power button and switched the TV on. So, apologies if it looked as if I might be saying there was a problem with the extender when I reported that I "tried this to no avail". The extender does "what it says on the can".
"To no avail" for me meant that I wasn't able to create a button which, when pressed for an instant, simulated the holding down of the power button for 1-2 seconds. This was what I wanted so that I could include it in a macro which, on a single keypress, switched on the TV, selected an AV input that was different from the TV's default and selected a default channel on that input, together with a few other startup defaults for my other devices.
Let me know if any of the above confuses the situation further.
In the meantime, I should say that I have a URC-7780 in another location with a group of different devices and I think for what I want to achieve there the extender will be a prerequisite so I'll no doubt be popping up again in the future with other reports.
Ian
Yes, the power button on the URC-7781 for TV with setup code 0650 turns the TV on if pressed for 1-2 seconds.
And, yes, I created a macro with your extender in which the last key of the macro was the power key of the T0650 code. And, yes indeed, if I pressed the macro key for 1-2 seconds it did the same as the URC-7781 power button and switched the TV on. So, apologies if it looked as if I might be saying there was a problem with the extender when I reported that I "tried this to no avail". The extender does "what it says on the can".
"To no avail" for me meant that I wasn't able to create a button which, when pressed for an instant, simulated the holding down of the power button for 1-2 seconds. This was what I wanted so that I could include it in a macro which, on a single keypress, switched on the TV, selected an AV input that was different from the TV's default and selected a default channel on that input, together with a few other startup defaults for my other devices.
Let me know if any of the above confuses the situation further.
In the meantime, I should say that I have a URC-7780 in another location with a group of different devices and I think for what I want to achieve there the extender will be a prerequisite so I'll no doubt be popping up again in the future with other reports.
Ian
Thanks for the clarification, Ian. I'm glad my extender does "what it says on the can". What I was missing was that you needed a brief press of a button to send a signal lasting 1-2 seconds. What you have said now is completely clear and explains everything.
Do post questions if you have problems getting your URC-7780 set up with my extender in the way you want. I'm also happy to respond to PMs, but if it is done in the forums then it helps others with similar questions. If I don't respond in the forum, prompt me with a PM in case I've missed your posting.
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Graham
Do post questions if you have problems getting your URC-7780 set up with my extender in the way you want. I'm also happy to respond to PMs, but if it is done in the forums then it helps others with similar questions. If I don't respond in the forum, prompt me with a PM in case I've missed your posting.
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Graham