RM question: duration control urc 3990RJ0-04

[Capn Trips]

Rob. It may be that stabilo is doing something wrong, but that would be IN ADDITION to the problem with RM. I just created a simple DC upgrade in RM for that remote. The OUTPUT section of RM generates a Device Upgrade, but does not generate a Protocol Upgrade (which IIRC is ALWAYS required for DC, since it's not built into any remote by UEI - so far!).

Try it and see.

[stabilo555]

Sorry to robman ! I edited my post and in this previous post i really was wrong and added to protocols.

adding to devices causes the problem mentioned above.

got no protocol upgrade either...

edit: capn trips

[gfb107]

Try RM v1.87a

[stabilo555]

I tried rm 1.87a and pasted the Device Upgrade and the Protocol Upgrade into ir, but the tv completle ignores the duration. I also tried the hints in http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10238 by the robman and vickyg2003, the tv only gets a signal as long as i press the button.

Sorry, but i´m a real rookie.

GENERAL NOTES:
<None>

DEVICE BUTTONS:
Device
# Button Type Code
1 TV TV 1250
2 AUX VCR/LD/DVD 1176
3 DREAM SAT 0031

OTHER SETTINGS:
# Setting Value
1 VPT Device AUX
2 VPT Status On
3 TV uses VPT No
4 AUX uses VPT Yes
5 DREAM uses VPT Yes
6 TV Setup Code Lock Off
7 AUX Setup Code Lock Off
8 DREAM Setup Code Lock On

KEY MOVES:
Device Device
# Button Key Button Device Type Setup Code Hex Cmd EFC or Key Name Note
1 TV Phantom4 TV TV 1250 $FF $83 60742
2 TV Phantom5 TV TV 1250 $FF $03 60870
3 AUX RED (Rewind) <N/A> TV 0586 $06 1
**KeyCod
e
4 AUX TV (Stop) <N/A> TV 0586 $07 2
**KeyCod
e
5 AUX GREEN (Play) <N/A> TV 0586 $08 3
**KeyCod
e
6 AUX RADIO (Record) <N/A> TV 0586 $09 4
**KeyCod
e
7 AUX YELLOW (Pause) <N/A> TV 0586 $0A 5
**KeyCod
e
8 AUX TEXT <N/A> TV 0586 $0B 6
**KeyCod
e
9 AUX BLUE (Fast <N/A> TV 0586 $0C 7
Fwd) **KeyCod
e
10 AUX HELP <N/A> TV 0586 $0D 8
**KeyCod
e

MACROS:
# Key Macro Keys Note
1 Shift-TV AUX
2 Shift-1 DREAM;SHIFT (Setup);POWER;SHIFT (Setup);AUX;SHIFT (Setup);POWER

UPGRADE DEVICES:
Device Note
VCR/LD/DVD: 1176
TV: 1250
TV: 2048 (RM v1.87a)

UPGRADE PROTOCOLS:
Protocol Note
Protocol: $0144 Device Combiner (RM v1.87a)

LEARNED SIGNALS:
<No Entries>

LEARNED RAW DATA:
<No Entries>

[stabilo555]

one more thing:

when I`m adding the device combiner to the original working update for my tv, change all the values and import it to IR, delete the old upgrade and it to the remote, the remote doesnt work any more. when i´m pressing a button (for the tv) the dream led blinks twice an thats it...

so: as soon as i use the device combiner (even without changing the duration)the upgrade (the remote) doesnt work any more. without the device combiner it works. Do i have to change the EFC in the functions tab manually, they are all set to 18?

[stabilo555]

me again:

i´ve uploaded the ir here
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=6213,
and the rdmu here
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=6212

maybe someone could have a look.

What i tried: I used this working upgrade
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=5083
and selected the device combiner protocol. i just concentrated on the powre button for testing. After importing to IR and the remote the prob stays the same: when i pres the power button only the dream led flashes twice, and no signal is transmitted.

BTW: Thank you very much for your help so far!!!!!!!!!

[gfb107]

Try RM v1.87b

[stabilo555]

Thanx, for your quick reply, but i´ve still got the problem mentioned above (dream led blinks twice, no signal)...

could this be some kind of an error code?

[gfb107]

We're going to need help from the real experts.

[mr_d_p_gumby]

Several things about yout IR file look incorrect.

First, when I load it, I get an error message that there is a conflict at fixed data address $0200. I do not know why, but the RDF file specifies that some fixed data needs to be used, and your file does not have it. You should probably try answering Yes to the question to see if it makes any difference.

Next, the device upgrade in your IR file does not match the upgrade that RM provides using your RM file. The upgrade should be:

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Upgrade Code 0 = 0C C4 (TV/1250)
 44 00 11 20 43
End

The upgrade in your IR file has two extra zero bytes:

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Upgrade Code 0 = 0C C4 (TV/1250)
 44 00 11 00 00 20 43
End

As a result, IR shows the hex command assigned to the Power button to be 00 00, when it should be 20 43 (EFC 19334). This means the Power button is transmitting the incorrect code.

Last, the protocol upgrade in your IR file has many extra zero bytes at the end that should not be there. This will not prevent it from working, but suggests that something did not get copied correctly from RM. Try reloading this protocol upgrade produced by RM v1.87b

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Upgrade protocol 0 = 01 44 (HCS08) Device Combiner (RM v1.87b)
 20 10 00 00 02 00 B7 7A 55 BB AF 00 81 3C 7F 7E
 5F 81 4E 61 54 45 00 10 B6 60 52 48 27 02 B7 B2
 8B 86 AB 4C BD 75 9E AE 8B 9F BD 75 35 52 86 BD
 75 7E 56 7E 57 BD 7C 75 52 23 FA 45 00 54 BD 7E
 19 CD CD A5 9D 24 CA A7 02 CC 90 B9 4E 55 00 C9
 FE BF FB FE FF
End

Here is a copy of your IR file that includes all the above:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=6215

[stabilo555]

Thanks mr_d_p_gumby fpr your help, but your IR file causes the same error mentioned above. After pressing the power button just the dream button blinks twice...

[vickyg2003]

stabilio, I asked in the other thread and I ask again here, WHY are you using the device combiner instead of the protocol that was used in the upgrade you are trying to modify.

[stabilo555]

@ vickyg2003: my tv only turns on when i keep the power button pressed for 2-3 sec. So a complete power on (sat, amp, tv, light...) macro doesnt work. also the discrete power on has to be pressed for several seconds. a macro, where the power or discrete on or chanel button is pressed several times also doesnt work. Duration control is the only way (as far as i know) to obtain this.

[The Robman]

Here's an idea. Program your TV upgrade in the normal way, then program a separate upgrade just for the power buttons. As you will only be using these buttons in macros, you don't need to assign them to accessible buttons, you can program to phantom buttons or shifted buttons.

But first, confirm that they work.

Here's an upgrade, formatted for the Dreambox v4 remote, where the 3 volume buttons should work the 3 power functions:
VOL+ = discrete on
VOL- = discrete off
MUTE = power toggle

I have used a duration of 5.

Upgrade Code 0 = 1F D0 (TV/2000) keymap-master Device Upgrade (KM v9.16)
44 00 41 50 83 50 03 50 43
End

Upgrade Protocol 0 = 01 44 (HCS08) Device Combiner (KM v9.16)
20 10 00 00 02 00 B7 7A 55 BB AF 00 81 3C 7F 7E
5F 81 4E 61 54 45 00 10 B6 60 52 48 27 02 B7 B2
8B 86 AB 4C BD 75 9E AE 8B 9F BD 75 35 52 86 BD
75 7E 56 7E 57 BD 7C 75 52 23 FA 45 00 54 BD 7E
19 CD CD A5 9D 24 CA A7 02 CC 90 B9 4E 55 00 C9
FE BF FB FE FF
End

[stabilo555]

Thank robman for your idea.
Added the upgrades and made a keymove so that tv button 2= VCR/LD/DVD (setup code 2030) button mute. Just for testing, so that when i press tv button 2 your upgrade mute(power) should be sent.

Obviously the key move works, because when pressing tv button 2 the error code mentioned above (double binking dream led) occours. All other buttons work perfectly...

is it possible that my remote is to "stupid" to handle device combiner?
One more thing: the working upgrade uses panasonic combo protocol. In device combiner i can only select panasonic. Could this be the problem?