New Slingbox Pro-HD

nuke12 · Post by **nuke12** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:08 am

I tried the current methods to create a remote for the Yamaha HTR 5790 but I couldn't get a JU, PL, PK. or RV file to work.

Being a noob, I could be doing something wrong or is this because the box has an IR blaster version 5?

If the IR blaster is the issue, what is the process to add this device?

Thanks for your time.

nuke12 · Post by **nuke12** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:56 am

No hints here?

Ok, I can control my sat box with the remotes built into Slingplayer. So if I use my RS 15-2116 to learn the codes being sent to my sat box by Slingplayer, will this tell me something about IR blaster version 5?

Hmm, that does not sound right. What it sends should be the same as the actual sat remote control sends.

So how do I do, discovery on the Slingbox IR device? Four other devices were done, there must be some method? I am lost.

binky123 · Post by **binky123** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:21 am

It could be the Slingbox Pro-HD is using a different IR chip than in the past. You may have to open your box to see if it is still using a S3C80 chip. They also may have changed the format of the BIN files. Maybe you can grab a BIN file of a known remote code from within the Slingbox and upload it here so it can be compared. I think RM can decode a BIN file as well as create one.

nuke12 · Post by **nuke12** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:06 am

binky123 wrote:It could be the Slingbox Pro-HD is using a different IR chip than in the past. You may have to open your box to see if it is still using a S3C80 chip. They also may have changed the format of the BIN files. Maybe you can grab a BIN file of a known remote code from within the Slingbox and upload it here so it can be compared. I think RM can decode a BIN file as well as create one.

I don't see any "S3C80" markings on the chip. This is exactly what is on the chip;

U819B
3F80JBBUQ-QZ8B
UEIC 2008
K202DN

Version 2 of Slingplayer does not have any BIN files in the SBAV directory.The defined remotes seem to have taken on a different format and are stored in the "remote" directory with the extension .spr. My readings say the software will accept a .bin if stored in the SBAV directory.

Maybe this info will help. I have both version 2 and version 1.0.5.140 of Slingplayer installed. The old version of Slingplayer will not allow me to select a remote but if I select a remote in version 2, I get a remote in the older version and it does control some functions.

Any of this, provide some clues?

binky123 · Post by **binky123** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:24 am

Well, the 3F80 marking means it is using the S3F80(JP1.3) chip and protocols should be compatible with the S3C80 used in previous Slingboxes. I'm not familiar with the SLingplayer software so not sure about the version 1 and version 2. Maybe that allows the UI to read different BIN formats. It could be that for Blaster version 5, we would have to generate code in SPR file format. You may have to figure out what the SPR file format is or grab a SPR file for a known remote code that uses NEC codes and upload to the diags file section for others to analyze.

nuke12 · Post by **nuke12** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:47 am

I'm guessing the .spr is a unified type file. It is much bigger then a .bin file.

My guess is it contains the control codes and the image file for the remote.

I posted a sample file here;
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=5836

nuke12 · Post by **nuke12** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:15 pm

Ok, you said this chip uses JP1.3. I assume that refers to the version of the JP1 interface. So how does that cross to this;

You can verify your IR blaster version in the Slingbox Properties dialog.

1=JU
2=PL
3=PK
4=RV

I have a IR blaster version of 5 (not in that list). I'm trying to figure out if one of the current formats will/could support this chip?

Also, when I had the box apart, I noticed the MB had places for two headers. Again, I'm making guesses but one looked like it could possibly be a jtag and the other smaller one, is it possibly a JP1? I wish I had taken pictures. If it is a JP1 it's not using the standard 3 on top and 3 below. The pins were all in a row and I don't remember the number of bins. I started thinking about this only after the fact.

nuke12 · Post by **nuke12** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:51 pm

I took the dang thing apart again and I took pictures.

The small header is 4 pins but I don't think it is JP1 related. I see one lead going to the processor and the header is far away from the UEI chip.

The other header still might be a jtag. It's a multi-layer board and I can't follow any of the traces from this header.

This board also has the mystery IR receiver.

binky123 · Post by **binky123** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:05 pm

JP1.3 is just the name of the interface given to remotes with the S3F80 processor. I didn't see anything in the SPR file that resembled the codes we normally use. Maybe you can't add any new codes and can only use whatever is built-in to the S3F80 processor? I think you should ask around in the slingcommunity forums to see if you can add BIN files for use with IR Blaster 5.

Post by **The Robman** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:35 am

I just got word from Sling Media that PL files should work with the Pro-HD, even though it is in fact a new chip.

nuke12 · Post by **nuke12** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:15 am

The Robman wrote:I just got word from Sling Media that PL files should work with the Pro-HD, even though it is in fact a new chip.

Well, I backed stepped. I took a set of .bin files someone else created. Sony, I think. The zip had both a JU & PL file. Installed both in the SBAV directory. I don't have the device but I got a remote and it was sending data to the IR senders.

I then created my own bins from someone's IR text file for a Yamaha amp. Again the files worked but are not correct for my amp.

I have no idea what I did wrong, the first time around. I did say I was a noob.

So now I'm into the basics. I have my JP1 learning remote and will build the cable.

I have 3 HD sources but the Slingbox only has 1 HD input. Amp control makes sense but Sling Media is rather slack in providing remote control for devices like this.

Thanks Robman and binky for helping out a dumb noob.

Post by **The Robman** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 8:46 am

As you have a JP1 learning remote (15-2116) and a JP1 cable, you should learn all the buttons from your yamaha remote and use that data to create a new upgrade, rather than relying on upgrades created by other people.

If you don't know how to do that, just post your IR files which contain the learns and one of us will do it.

If there's not enough memory in the 15-2116 to learn all of the buttons, learn as many as you can and then save the file. Then delete them all and start over with the remaining buttons, it's OK to save multiple files in order to get all of the buttons.

nuke12 · Post by **nuke12** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:04 pm

The Robman wrote:As you have a JP1 learning remote (15-2116) and a JP1 cable, you should learn all the buttons from your yamaha remote and use that data to create a new upgrade, rather than relying on upgrades created by other people.

If you don't know how to do that, just post your IR files which contain the learns and one of us will do it.

If there's not enough memory in the 15-2116 to learn all of the buttons, learn as many as you can and then save the file. Then delete them all and start over with the remaining buttons, it's OK to save multiple files in order to get all of the buttons.

I have a question. I looked at your file here;
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=2099

The file is for a few Yamaha receivers (probably using the same remote) and thinking about your request above.

I see you giving codes for things like "Tape Play", "CD Play" etc.

I assume the remote is somewhat like mine and will accept setup codes for devices or learn codes from other remotes.

How useful is a set of codes for a tape deck? There is a default tape deck set in the remote or they change depending on setup code or what is learned.

The only codes I see as being truly useful are ones that control things on the actual tuner/amp.

Have I missed some concept?

P.S. - For my purposes (receiver control from the Slingbox), I only need video device selection, power on, standby and possibly volume control, mute.

Post by **The Robman** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 1:56 pm

I didn't create the file that you linked to, that file was created by Andrea Whitlock, so I can't comment on the functions that were included and as I don't have a Yamaha receiver or remote, I don't know how they work either.

You are correct that the only useful functions are the ones that actually do something to your receiver, so you should capture all the buttons that work, even if you don't intend to use them yourself.

nuke12 · Post by **nuke12** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 2:17 pm

Thanks, I'll do what I can.

Most of the functions on my Yamaha remote control, I've never used.

I've never used it as universal or as a learning control. I have a Sony RM-AV3000 that controls most of my A/V setup (my wife's remote) and I have 3 discrete remotes, I use. One being the Yamaha unit but only with amp functions and if I need more control, I grab the RM-AV3000.

It would be really nice if the Sony unit had a JP1.