Sharp Aquos LC42XD1E (US: LC42D62U I think)

PentVaer · Post by **PentVaer** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:07 pm

Hello,

first of all thanks to the maintainers of this
site for a great resource. Secondly, HELP!

I'm looking for just two codes for this TV
(although discrete on/off would be tasty too
of course...)

1. Device: Sharp Aquos LC42XD1E (European model, US maybe LC42D62U)
2. Type of device: LCD TV
3. Year: 2006
4. JP1/UEI Remote model: URC-39730 B00-00 (SC380...) = Dreambox remote v2/3 (unsure)
5. Do you have a JP1 cable? Yes
6. Still have original remote? Yes
7. Checked the file section? Yes
8. Checked Pronto file section (at R/C)? Yes
9. Partially working setup code? Yes
10. Learning remote question? No

I've used the built-in device code 1223 which provides some basics like on/off, numerals and volume (if I recall correctly). I can then program almost all of the other functions using:

- TV
- Setup (2 seconds)
- 994
- setup
- <3 digit code>
- remote button

I found the codes by going through 0-255
(was fun) (not). The only two missing, which
are unfortunately fairly essential, are menu
and enter.

Can anyone give me tips for this ?

I've read a lot and fiddled with IR and RM a lot, but I still feel like a rank JP1 beginner.

I've tried a couple of device upgrades from
the files section without any apparently useful result.

Oh, one more thing, one function ('clear voice') is on code 257. How high do they go ?
Might I find menu on e.g. 578 ?

Thanks in advance,

Pent

Post by **The Robman** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:24 pm

Setup codes on both Dreambox remotes are offset by 30, so TV/1223 on the Dreambox remote is really TV/1193. I just looked up this code on the devices.xls spreadsheet and it appears that this is a special one-off code that was just added to the Dreambox remotes. This code uses the $0161 executor with one byte of fixed data, value "7C".

I have attempted to create a KM upgrade file that replicates this code here...
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=4163

So, you should be able to use this as a starting point for a new upgrade where you replace the EFCs with the ones that you found by testing.

This executor uses 2 bytes of variable data, which normally would mean that manually programmed EFCs wouldn't work, but in this case the 2nd byte is always "FE" so I'm guessing that the fact that you had previously used one button from the upgrade meant that the 2nd byte was initialized to the "FE" value, so keymoves would work, but I don't know that they would always work, so creating an upgrade would be safer.

There are only 256 EFCs, once you've tested 000 thru 255, they start to wrap around. So, if 257 worked for you, I'm betting that 001 would also work.

PentVaer · Post by **PentVaer** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:59 pm

Many thanks for your amazingly swift reaction. I will attempt to digest the information you have given me over the next few days

and get back to this thread.

Pent

Post by **The Robman** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:59 pm

I've probably given you more info than you need, suffice to say that the KM upgrade file that I posted replicates the TV/1223 code that you have been using. So, what you should do next is open up the upgrade using KM or RM and then overlay the EFC values contained within with the EFC values that you found by testing. Feel free to rename the functions as you see fit. Then, go to the buttons sheet and assign the new functions that you've entered to buttons.

Then load the upgrade into your remote to test it out. Be aware that the setup code number used in the upgrade is 1193, so you should either change this to 1223 or you should change the code assigned to the TV button to be 1193.

PentVaer · Post by **PentVaer** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:08 am

Dear Robman,

Loading your skeleton upgrade into RM I get the message:

'The selected protocol "Manual Settings" (01 61) is not compatible with the selected remote. This upgrade will NOT function correctly. Please choose a different protocol'

This occurs both with v2 and v3 of the dreambox remote configured.

On the other hand, I tried assigning some of the codes in the upgrade that I'd previously discovered and they worked fine.

However, I still don't have the EFC for the menu or enter keys of course:-(

I tried some from the other menu EFCs in upgrades I've seen related to Sharp LCDs (032,213,242) but without luck.

Do I need to go through all 256 again ? That will take ages via the RM/IR/upload route

Thanks,

Pent

Post by **The Robman** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:58 am

OK, I've looked into this a bit closer and apparently, the $0161 executor used by the TV/1193 (aka TV/1223) code that you've been using is also a special one-off and has nothing to do with the real $0161 executor.

It looks like this executor is a version of the standard Sharp executor (though I don't know what the difference is). There is a standard TV code in your remote that you could try. The code is TV/0093, which would be TV/0123 in the Dreambox remotes. This code uses the Sharp executor with a device code of 1.

Post by **The Robman** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:07 pm

I've found an upgrade file that appears to be the right one for your TV...
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=2631

It lists 213 as the code for MENU, 059 as the code for ENTER (the button next to the numbers) and 146 as the code for SELECT.

Also, from what I can tell, it looks like this executor is really a ham-fisted attempt at a Sharp combo protocol. All of the buttons that are part of the setup code use device code 1, but the executor has the ability to also include functions from device code 17, so if you're up for another bucnh of testing, you could also test all 256 EFCs from that device code.

PentVaer · Post by **PentVaer** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:49 am

Tried a couple of the known menu codes on device 17 without any luck. Was just about to give in when I happened upon a code to select a particular input on the TV. I then setup RM to test 20 codes at once and started going through all the device 17 codes
with new hope. Bingo! Menu key on something like 087, with a bonus 'discrete off' before that too. Will map out the other functions on that device number later.

Now I just need to make sure I can still access all the other functions with this upgrade
(they're certainly not on the codes I originally discovered).

If it works out I'll post my finished upgrade
of course.

Pent

Post by **The Robman** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:34 am

To create an upgrade that uses both device code 1 and device code 17, please select the official Sharp Combo protocol in KM or RM.

If you're short on upgrade space and you are just creating this upgrade for the Dreambox remote, you do have the option of using the upgrade that I created for you originally. To make the signals use device code 17 all you should need to do is change the hex code in the byte2 column from "FE" to "FF". This would save you having to load a protocol upgrade.

However, please don't post this version of the upgrade in the file section, please post the one that uses the official Sharp combo protocol as the Dreambox remote is the only one that has this one-off version in it.

PentVaer · Post by **PentVaer** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:15 am

OK Sharp Combo version uploaded (RM)
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=4177

Thanks once again for your help.

Pent