Programming Kameleon remote arrow keys for Net-Tune

guido331 · Post by **guido331** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:48 pm

Nevermind... brain fart.

Yes, now I see "11 free" with version 6.20

johnsfine · Post by **johnsfine** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:52 pm

With IR version 6.15:

I get 203 free, 718 free and 11 free. So I think we're not looking at the same .ir file. I got the file from your link in the first post of this thread.

There are 22 learned signals listed and 3 macros. How many do you have?

guido331 · Post by **guido331** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:57 pm

That's what I see too. I was just looking in the wrong place. (sorry, stayed up too late last night messing with the remote)

guido331 · Post by **guido331** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:11 pm

One more question...

Can I delete the device VOL+ and VOL- learned commands to make some room? I never really "taught" my Kameleon these commands in the first place. I'm not sure where it got them from.

Here's my latest IR file: File

johnsfine · Post by **johnsfine** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:18 pm

guido331 wrote:Can I delete the device VOL+ and VOL- learned commands to make some room?

Since you then posted a file with most of your learned signals including those deleted, you seem to know the answer is yes. Or I'm missing the meaning of the question.

guido331 wrote:I never really "taught" my Kameleon these commands in the first place. I'm not sure where it got them from.

I'm sure you did learn those commands. I expect at some point you wanted something like volume punch through (vol keys act like the remote is in AUD mode even when VCR or DVD is selected) and had trouble making that work, so you programmed learned signals to get that same effect.

If you have trouble getting the VPT you want, ask about that. There are much better ways than learned signals to deal with that.

guido331 · Post by **guido331** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:25 pm

I'm sure that's what I was trying to achieve; VPT. Like I mentioned earlier, I'm by far no expert at this quite yet.

On the first (General) tab of IR.exe, I noticed my VPT status was set to Off and the VPT device was set to TV. If I set this to "On" and change the device to AUD instead, will that acheive the same thing as the learned signals I deleted?

If that's the case then my problem is fixed.

johnsfine · Post by **johnsfine** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:36 pm

guido331 wrote:On the first (General) tab of IR.exe, I noticed my VPT status was set to Off and the VPT device was set to TV. If I set this to "On" and change the device to AUD instead, will that acheive the same thing as the learned signals I deleted?

Those learned signals were only from VCR and DVD mode. What you just said would be for any modes that have VPT on. Notice there is a global on/off for VPT but also individual mode on/off. VPT is on for a particular mode only if both global and mode specific are on.

Each model of remote a some stupid restrictions on when VPT actually works. The main stupid restriction is that device type much match default device type for the device button. That one is OK in your file. I don't know any other stupid restriction that would break it for you. But I don't remember all the per model details.

The internal design of VPT is so flawed that I never confidently claim it will work in a specific case. Try it. It probably will work. If it doesn't work someone will help you figure out what to do about it.

guido331 · Post by **guido331** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:40 pm

Thanks so much for everyone's help. I'll try this out when I get home today.

I'm confident the combination of deleting the extraneous learned signals to free up some room plus enabling VPT for all the relevant devices will fix my problem for me.