URC 8910

ichilton · Post by **ichilton** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:31 am

Hi,

I've just ordered a URC-8910 from Rob (already have a JP1 cable which I got the other day but have not used yet).

Please could someone tell me - I have a picture of it here - is it possible to program every button to something or are there some reserved buttons?

(it's the light bulb and SET buttons on the bottom which made me think).

I am wanting to use it mainly for a Topfield 5800 PVR and I need quite a lot of buttons to get all the features from the original remote.

Thanks

Ian

Capn Trips · Post by **Capn Trips** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:02 am

In the unextended 8910, you can assign functions to every button (either within the body of an upgrade or via Keymove) EXCEPT:
the Device buttons;
the Home Theater button; and
Scan/Fav
(i.e. You CAN assign functions to the Setup and Light buttons via Keymove)

You can assign MACROS to the Device and Home Theater butttons, however, which is what most people want, anyways.

If you choose to use the extender, which I highly recommend, but requires a bit more of a learning process to implement, you can also assign keymoves to the Fav/Scan button (which is really amongst the most MINOR of benefits to using the extender).

ichilton · Post by **ichilton** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:02 am

Excellent - thanks.

Ian

underquark · Post by **underquark** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:43 pm

Feel free to try my IR setup for URC8910 with extender loaded. Toppy is programmed to CBL button. L1, 2, 3, 4 are the coloured keys and COM SKIP key is the white key. Long Key Press (LKP) of Pause button is equivalent of slow-mo (or set control timer in MyStuff). LKP also on Power button so that accidental press of Power sends same signal as UpArrow but long press of Power sends Power signal. Also Custom Mode Name for Toppy and my oher devices.

Note that this IR file contains a mixture of eight devices including Panasonic TV, my cheapo DVD player etc. Just weed out the ones that don't apply but read the extender documentation to avoid deleting any bits essential for its function. Some macros etc. probably won't be relevant to you; LKPs on the device keys, for instance, are set to swap inputs on my TV (a 32" Panasonic CRT) but at least they'll give you ideas, I hope. PIP is PIP on Toppy, SWAP is open drawer on DVD or eject VCR tape and I'll leave it to you to discover the rest.

File dowload link here.

andyross · Post by **andyross** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:04 am

Without an extender, I don't think you can use the ComSkip button either.

ichilton · Post by **ichilton** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:00 pm

Hi,

Is this the right extender to use?

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=1455

Thanks

Ian

Capn Trips · Post by **Capn Trips** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:03 pm

ichilton · Post by **ichilton** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:08 pm

Thanks

ichilton · Post by **ichilton** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 3:45 am

Hi,

I've read the extender FAQ and I understand that, but it didn't answer 1 question:

When I am in IR, there seems to be 2 choices for the 8910 - one with and one without an extender (and this seems to be the case for most of the remotes too).

If I select the extender one, does that install an extender in the remote? - if so, is that the same one as the link above?

Thanks

Ian

Post by **The Robman** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 3:56 am

No. The RDF's don't actually *do* anything, they just tell IR how to read the data. You will need to install the extender as per the instructions that come with the extender.

Most extenders packages include an IR file with the extender already loaded, so if you don't need to keep all of your existing programming, that's the easiest way to load an extender. If you do want to keep all of your upgrades and macros, etc then you should use the exinstall program to load the extender.

ichilton · Post by **ichilton** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 4:04 am

ok, Thanks Rob.

So what is the purpose of the mention of extender in the RDF's?

Thanks

Ian

Capn Trips · Post by **Capn Trips** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 4:31 am

The rdf's ("remote definition file") don't "mention" extenders. The rdf's merely reflect the arrangement of each individual remote's memory areas, button assignments, etc. The "natural" rdf for a remote is one such ... "remote definition" .. if you will, whilst the extended remote uses a "re-defined" definition, so ipso facto, it requires a different rdf.

You select the rdf from the drop-down list that you need for your current application.

ichilton · Post by **ichilton** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 6:04 am

Ah, ok - thanks.

Ian

Post by **The Robman** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 7:20 am

If you think about it, why do people use extenders? One of the reasons people use them because the extenders let re-use the "learning" memory for other purposes (ie, keymoves, upgrades, etc).

If you understand that the RDF tells IR.exe where to find the upgrades, keymoves, etc then you should also understand that if the extender lets you re-use the learning memory for (let's say) keymoves, then IR will need to know about it, or it won't know where to find your keymoves.

Post by **ElizabethD** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:50 pm

The Robman wrote:If you do want to keep all of your upgrades and macros, etc then you should use the exinstall program to load the extender.

Hi Rob, may i just finish your sentence? ... use the extinstall program to load the extender onto the current open unextended file by selecting File then Merge using extinstal in IR.

The standalone extinstall is a bit rough to use, what with the new file and old file and batch file -- now it's all in IR.

Make sure to set path to extinstall before doing any of this, and the simplest location is in the same directory as IR. Extender's hex file can be anyplace.
Be mindful that all Notes get lost by that merge, so preserve the original file.