TV mode macro not working (URC-6131 - Extender 1)

[bonnie_Raitt]

I just downloaded your file. It is 2K, but the signature in RawData indicates 1K (PVR0PVx1) is that the file you built or is that the image from the remote?
Which remote eeprom size and which extender are we talking about?

Join the crowd. All I wanted to do was replace my PJ with a TV and this has turned into a recreate everything from scratch thread. To answer your question I have a URC-6131B00 which I bought from someone on the JP1 forum who sells JP1 modifed remotes(I thought it was Rob, but maybe not). I am assuming (perhaps incorrectly) that since it is an older remote that it is a 2K model.

I uploaded 2 files. The IR file which was a modified version of my current working HT file. I deleted the PJ and replaced with the TV device that I made by learning the commands with a URC-8811. I transferred the learned commands into KM, saved and posted that file, and copy the device over to IR via the standard procedure.

If you are saying that my IR file has 1K code in it, I'm not sure what to say. Over the past few years< I have added and deleted devices to my original extender IR file as my HT equipment has evolved. I'm not sure how the 1K (PVR0PVx1) signature got in in RawData.

I'm feeling like this problem has a simple solution but it keeps getting more and more complicated as this thread continues.

I think I'm going to bed and think about this tommorow. I'm so frustrated now that I'm likely to offend some of you who are so gracious to offer your help.

[ElizabethD]

I messed up on the remote signature. I saw it after I listed the files for you. The file you initially posted has PVR0PVx1 signature and the eeprom is 2K, a correct combination. Sorry for confusing things. (1K has a "K" in name).

Good news is that you can rule out bad RDF version. Just make sure you use the latest, from the v1.25 zip file.

That O-keyset is consistent with what you describe. That's all I can think of so I'll go to bed too.

[ElizabethD]

This is likely the thing causing problems, but an expert needs to confirm.
On the General tab and on the Devices tab, there's setup TV/2011 which i think you mentioned earlier is the subject TV.
Fixed bytes are 00 FF FF. I think that means in KM the setup code is 0000.

Edited: I just re-read p1 here.

Regarding the TV/2011 name, I just sort of winged it. I knew it was a TV, but I wasn't sure about how to number it.

Wing it consistently in both places

[bonnie_Raitt]

This is likely the thing causing problems, but an expert needs to confirm.
On the General tab and on the Devices tab, there's setup TV/2011 which i think you mentioned earlier is the subject TV.
Fixed bytes are 00 FF FF. I think that means in KM the setup code is 0000.

Edited: I just re-read p1 here.

Regarding the TV/2011 name, I just sort of winged it. I knew it was a TV, but I wasn't sure about how to number it.

Wing it consistently in both places

OK. I'm recharged and ready to do battle again. As I said above, when I named the device I winged it. I didn't have a clue what number to assign the device. According to ElizabethD the setup code in KM is 0000. I belive the docs say to add 1000 to the default. Does this mean I should name it TV/1000? I looked thru the docs but didn't see an explanation of how I could determine the numbers to use for my new TV device.

Could someone verify that the correct name is TV/1000? Can someone point out the docs or explain how I could determine this in the future? Is this a possible cause for the problem I am seeing?

BTW, in case it has been lost in the shuffle, the volume keys work for the TV. It's just the power and menu buttons that don't work. Thanks

[Mark Pierson]

On the General tab and on the Devices tab, there's setup TV/2011 which i think you mentioned earlier is the subject TV.
Fixed bytes are 00 FF FF. I think that means in KM the setup code is 0000.

Tsk, tsk, Liz... you should know better.

The Fixed Data has nothing to do with the device type/setup code. The upgrade is for TV/2011 as displayed in the list on the left side of the Devices tab. The upgrade is using the NEC1 protocol (5A) so the 00 FF FF Fixed Data indicates the default entries are being used for Device (0), Sub-Device (0), and Parm (00). Now, this may be part of the problem if the TV is using some other Device/Sub-Device numbers, which I think is likely. So, the question to Bonnie is what did the learned signals decode as for Device and Sub-Device?

[ElizabethD]

The Fixed Data has nothing to do with the device type/setup code.

Ouch I must have been asleep reading and writing. Apologies to bonnie_Raitt.
Mark, I, too, suspect the need for subdevice IF the setup codes in IR match what came from KM (both 2011). But in an earlier post she said it's device 0 and subdevice 0. So I don't know what to think.

I'm bailing out totally. Caused too much confusion here

[bonnie_Raitt]

Yes, that is what I intended. When I look at the learned commands in IR, I see

Protocol NEC
Device 0
SubDevice blank

I have loaded my upgrade file to TV. It is called Viewsonic N2010.

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=3809

Regarding the TV/2011 name, I just sort of winged it. I knew it was a TV, but I wasn't sure about how to number it.

Do you see anything wrong? Thanks

This is what I said in the 3rd post. Is there something else I need to relay? If the device code number is the problem, I'll gladly change it if someone will tell me how to determine it. Thanks

[The Robman]

The random number that you chose to use as the setup code for this upgrade (ie, TV/2011) has absolutely nothing to do with the problem.

[bonnie_Raitt]

Well at least I don't have to worry about that.

I guess at this point I'm going to live with it. At least my remote controls the volume of the TV. That is the most important thing. I can always walk over and turn on the set manually. I rarely access the TV menu settings so that won't be a great loss.

If anyone gets a brilliant idae, I still game to try it. Thanks for the effort.

Maybe I'll start looking on ebay for one of those Harmonys:)

[binky123]

Well I tried rebuilding the IR code by importing all the devices again. I ended up using the 4th choice for URC6131 under the "New" file pull down to create a new file. I added all the devices and entered the macros. However, now when I upload the code to the remote, I cannot get the red light to blink 4 times, no matter what keys I press. I also notice that I am missing devices TV:1800, VCR/DVD:1800, TV:1101, TV:1101, and TV:1106. By the looks of it, TV:1800 looks important. How do I get these back into IR?

FYI

If I reload the old code, the light blinks 4 times when I press the power button. I also notice that the old file says "URC-6131/6131nw PVR Remote Extender 1". As I recall, Rob was the one who originally loaded the extender since I purchased the remote from him

I'm beginning to think a Harmony remote might not be so expensive after all

Thanks

To start fresh, just load in 6131_extender1_.txt into IR and proceed to add your device upgrades and protocol upgrades.

[bonnie_Raitt]

To start fresh, just load in 6131_extender1_.txt into IR and proceed to add your device upgrades and protocol upgrades.

OK. I opened the file 6131_extender1_.txt that came down with the 6131 extender zip file. When first loaded in IR, I see 5 devices, toadtog, LKP, etc. I notice that on the General tab most of the device buttons have codes already assigned to them. I loaded my TV device and changed the code on the General tab for TV to TV/2011 to match my new device. I uploaded this code to the remote and activated with the power button.

Since this is a stripped down version, I didn't expect much. I wasn't disappointed. Pressing the TV button and then any of the buttons assigned to the TV results in zilch, nada. If I press the PVR button, the PVRMenu button works but that's about it. That doesn't surprise me since I have loaded any of my TiVo code yet.

I did notice that I get the red light to blink once when I press any of the device buttons, with the exception of the TV button. Is this a clue? I did not modify any of the macros that showed up when I loaded 6131_extender1_.txt. The TV button macro was V_TV;O_TV.

What now?

[Mark Pierson]

Protocol NEC
Device 0
SubDevice blank

At this point I don't know what to suggest except to ask if you're sure that the decodes are really Device=0 and Sub-Device=<blank>?

Did you by any chance save the 8011 file those learned signals were in? If not, can you re-learn a few signals and confirm the decode?

Perhaps uploading an IR file with several learned signals might help us see something.

[binky123]

If you put the TV setup code into the PVR device button does it work the TV? I guess that would eliminate the TV upgrade device codes as being a problem. Maybe inserting the TV upgrade code is causing some corruption elsewhere? Can you try using a built-in setup code? Then try to verify the macro on the TV button is even executing?

[bonnie_Raitt]

At this point I don't know what to suggest except to ask if you're sure that the decodes are really Device=0 and Sub-Device=<blank>?

Did you by any chance save the 8011 file those learned signals were in? If not, can you re-learn a few signals and confirm the decode?

Perhaps uploading an IR file with several learned signals might help us see something.

I didn't save the original file but I relearned most of the commands using the 8811. Here is that IR file

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=3821

[bonnie_Raitt]

If you put the TV setup code into the PVR device button does it work the TV? I guess that would eliminate the TV upgrade device codes as being a problem. Maybe inserting the TV upgrade code is causing some corruption elsewhere? Can you try using a built-in setup code? Then try to verify the macro on the TV button is even executing?

OMG, some actual progress. I tried what you said (or at least how I interpreted it. Here's what I did

1.On General tab set PVR device to TV 2011
2. On General tab set O device to TV
3. Uploaded code to remote and activated it
4. Pressed PVR button. All TV buttons from uploaded TV device work as expected.
5. Tivo buttons no longer do anything.

FYI, I am working on a stripped down IR file that only has the 6131 stuff, my Viewsonic device and one Tivo device loaded.

I am encouraged that I am seeing progress. What should I try next since I really don't want the PVR button to be the TV device. Thanks