Directv h20

darrinps · Post by **darrinps** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:31 pm

MaskedMan wrote:I don't have a H20 receiver, but I do have its remote, the Rc24. I taught my 2116 22 commands before running out of memory. They worked perfectly on my R15's. Which uses the same IR code as the H20 receiver.

To learn:

1. press and hold P
2. scroll down to IR LEARN
3. press SELECT
4. pick a key to learn to, and release
5. With the remotes head to head, press and hold key on the 2116, until the screen changes to SUCCESS,

repeat steps 4 & 5 for other keys.

That isn't exactly what I did. What I did was the same up until step 4. Then I did this:

4) Put the remotes head to head about two inches apart.
5) Press and release the key on the 2116 you want to send the code to.
6) Press the button on the H20 remote until you see SUCCESS on the 2116

My 2116 times out every time just like it doesn't see any IR signal at all, but I know the H20 remote works just fine because I use it to control my sat, TV (on/off and volumne) and receiver (on/off and volume).

Grrrrrrr..

Post by **The Robman** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:33 pm

Do you have to do anything to switch the remote from RF to IR?

MaskedMan · Post by **MaskedMan** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:40 pm

The Robman wrote:Do you have to do anything to switch the remote from RF to IR?

No, the white UEI made oem remote gives off IR & RF all the time.

If the 2116 learned the commands then it wouldn't work the H20, then its the receiver itself that needs to by changed from RF to IR because it doesn't accept both at the same time.

gfb107 · Post by **gfb107** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:50 pm

Just out of curiosity, which key on the 2116 have you tring to teach, and which key from the DirecTV remote are you trying to learn?

darrinps · Post by **darrinps** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:54 pm

gfb107 wrote:Just out of curiosity, which key on the 2116 have you tring to teach, and which key from the DirecTV remote are you trying to learn?

I tried a couple. Started with power and then tried channel up and channel down.

Same thing on all of them....ERROR.

I can teach it from my TV remote just fine though.

MaskedMan · Post by **MaskedMan** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:59 pm

You can not teach to the power keys on the 2116. Nor the FAV(SCAN), EXIT or Device keys.

gfb107 · Post by **gfb107** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:59 pm

Do you have a digital camera? Using the view finder in the camera, watch the IR emitter when you press the button you are trying to learn from. If it is sending an IR signal you'll be able to see it through the LCD view finder.

darrinps · Post by **darrinps** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:15 pm

gfb107 wrote:Do you have a digital camera? Using the view finder in the camera, watch the IR emitter when you press the button you are trying to learn from. If it is sending an IR signal you'll be able to see it through the LCD view finder.

I never knew that!

I'll give it a try this evening. That said, I have the sat set up for IR, and I do have to point the remote at the sat to change the channel, so I'm pretty sure the remote is sending IR signals.

Post by **The Robman** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:42 pm

Of course, once your JP1 cable has arrived, it won't matter whether the 15-2116 is able to learn the DTV signals as you'll be able to use the upgrade.

Capn Trips · Post by **Capn Trips** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:56 am

I'm still curious about the 2116's failure to learn this one set of signals.

Some of these questions may seem patronizing, but I'm trying to ensure you're doing everything possible to get this right, since although you have a "source" file for an upgrade, there may always still be a nuance or two that can best be resolved by examining a true learn of your OEM remote signal(s).

(1) Are you certain you have new, fully charged batteries in both the OEM and the learning remotes?
(2) Are you certain the OEM remote is transmitting IR? (You say you've confirmed this by placing the DTV Box in "IR" mode and it responds. Are you 100% CERTAIN that it is not still possibly receiving/responding to the RF signal, too? I'd still do the camcorder/digital camera screen check to see if IR is being emitted from the OEM remote)
(3) Are you certain the learning memory of the 2116 has room to learn?(perform an MFR reset before you start to ensure the learning memory is empty - but remember all of your settings so you can rebuild them - or after you have the cable, save your IR image before doing the reset)
(4) Is your technique proper? I usually set both remotes down on a flat, unmoving surface (table, desk, coffee table) between 2-4 inches apart. Go through the sequence to get the 2116 in learning mode, press (and release) the "learn to" button on the 2116 first, and then after about 0.5 seconds, press (and hold) the "button to be learned" on the OEM remote - releasing it only after the 2116 LCD display says "success" (or not

)

It's just very curious that the 2116 seems to learn other remotes but not this single one

darrinps · Post by **darrinps** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:59 am

Capn Trips wrote:I'm still curious about the 2116's failure to learn this one set of signals.

Some of these questions may seem patronizing, but I'm trying to ensure you're doing everything possible to get this right, since although you have a "source" file for an upgrade, there may always still be a nuance or two that can best be resolved by examining a true learn of your OEM remote signal(s).

(1) Are you certain you have new, fully charged batteries in both the OEM and the learning remotes?

YES...and the 2116 still learns other remotes!

(2) Are you certain the OEM remote is transmitting IR? (You say you've confirmed this by placing the DTV Box in "IR" mode and it responds. Are you 100% CERTAIN that it is not still possibly receiving/responding to the RF signal, too? I'd still do the camcorder/digital camera screen check to see if IR is being emitted from the OEM remote)

YES. I did the digital camera trick yesterday. One funny thing though I noticed was that there were TWO lights sending IR (side by side), not just one as I have seen from all the other remotes I looked at. Could this be a problem for the 2116?

(3) Are you certain the learning memory of the 2116 has room to learn?(perform an MFR reset before you start to ensure the learning memory is empty - but remember all of your settings so you can rebuild them - or after you have the cable, save your IR image before doing the reset)

MAYBE! I removed several commands that I used for my old sat but I did not do an entire MFR reset. I could try that tonight I guess. The thing is though, it did learn a TV command after I couldn't teach it an H20 command so....

(4) Is your technique proper? I usually set both remotes down on a flat, unmoving surface (table, desk, coffee table) between 2-4 inches apart. Go through the sequence to get the 2116 in learning mode, press (and release) the "learn to" button on the 2116 first, and then after about 0.5 seconds, press (and hold) the "button to be learned" on the OEM remote - releasing it only after the 2116 LCD display says "success" (or not )

I tried exactly what you said...and every other combination I could think of!

Again, I can teach the 2116 how to use my TV remote just fine so I don't think it is my technigue.

It's just very curious that the 2116 seems to learn other remotes but not this single one

Yeah, tell me about it!

Post by **The Robman** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:05 am

The SAT/1377 signal uses up to 16 different burst pairs, so maybe the signal is just too complicated for the 2116 to learn. Having said that, I'm pretty sure that we've been able to learn it before, so that might not be it either.

darrinps · Post by **darrinps** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:35 am

OK, I got my JP1 cable in last night (after three weeks

), read the on-line instructions again, and tried to upgrade my RS 2116 so it would understand my DirecTV H20 SAT receiver.

Well..after several hours of beating my head against the wall I thought a post here might clarify things.

Here is what I did:

1) Download everything I needed (RM, IR, RDMU files, RDF files, etc.)
2) Fired up RM and loaded DirectTV D10.rdmu
3) Plugged in my remote using the cable
4) Fired up IR and set the RDF path
5) Tested the connection using IR (Interface->Check Interface)...it passed
6) Went to the output tab of RM
7) Copied the Devide Upgrade Code
8) Went to the Devices tab of IR
9) Clicked Add then pasted the code from RM into it
10) Went back to RM and copied the Upgrade Protocol Code
11) Went back to IR and selected the Protocols tab
12) Clicked Add and pasted in the code from RM into it.
13) I didn't see anything about sending the upgrade to the remote in the instructions, but I then went to the Remote section of IR and selected Upload to Remote.
14) I set the SAT code in the remote to 1377

I then tried to use the remote, but every time I press any button in SAT mode, the remote just keeps transmitting (the red LED comes on and NEVER turns off). I have to remove the batteries to get the thing to stop. All the buttons work fine in the other modes.

I have tried going through this procedure several times now but the same thing happens again and again. I tried getting rid of all the learned codes in the remote just to make sure it wasn't the memory but that didn't help.

Can anyone spot what it is I am doing wrong?

Thanks!

johnsfine · Post by **johnsfine** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:47 am

Just looking at the last post, my best guess is that you forgot to set the model of remote in RM or IR or both. Both RM and IR must know which model remote it is.

Usually you "tell" IR the model of remote by downloading from the remote or opening a saved .ir file and letting IR find the right RDF. Starting with "new" and selecting an RDF also works, but is more error prone.

If you uploaded when IR was set to the wrong remote, you can't correct by just downloading, you'd need a 981 reset before that download.

If just RM was set to the wrong remote, just fix it and reinstall the two upgrades.

darrinps · Post by **darrinps** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:58 am

johnsfine wrote:Just looking at the last post, my best guess is that you forgot to set the model of remote in RM or IR or both. Both RM and IR must know which model remote it is.

Usually you "tell" IR the model of remote by downloading from the remote or opening a saved .ir file and letting IR find the right RDF. Starting with "new" and selecting an RDF also works, but is more error prone.

If you uploaded when IR was set to the wrong remote, you can't correct by just downloading, you'd need a 981 reset before that download.

If just RM was set to the wrong remote, just fix it and reinstall the two upgrades.

THAT WAS IT!

The RM wasn't pointing to the RS-2116. Once I did that it worked.

THANK YOU!

JP1 Remotes

Directv h20

What am I doing wrong?