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irv6744



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:00 am    Post subject: can't get volume punch through to work Reply with quote

i have a device upgrade for my motorola hi def receiver.
when i add it to my 8910, vpt works fine
when i add it to my 6131 or 7800 vpt does not work.
vpt is set correctly in ir
on the 6131 i deleted the existing entries for volume up and down so they were not mapped and it made no difference.
am i missing something besides the obvious choice not to use the 7800 or 6131.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VPT requires that all the participating device buttons be in their natural state (ie, you have a TV code assigned to the TV button, etc). If you changed the state of any of the device buttons (by assigning a VCR code to a SAT button, for example) VPT won't work under that device button.

Is this what you did?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah Rob, of course that's what i did! Smile

the hi def receiver is classified as cable
on one remote i put it on vcr button and the other it is on aux button
any workarounds besides putting it on the cable button? (that won't work on the 6131 since cable/sat are one button and sat has the button)

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As you're a JP1 user, you're free to create your upgrades using whatever device mode you like, so create them using the same mode as the device button that you intend to assign them to. In other words, if you intend to program the upgrade to the VCR button, define it as a VCR code.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...OR... use the extender, 8) in whichyou assign the device keysets via macros and you just set the Vol keyset to the same device in each instance.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

got the 6131 to work ok by changing device type to vcr
having problems with the 7800

i can work with aux or cd buttons
put it on cd as a cd device
unmapped the volume and mute buttons
still doesn't work

any suggestions

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Capt Trips, can you point me to a document that describes how to do that with the extender? The install doc that came with the 6131 extender doesn't give me much background.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quoting from the Readme.txt included with the 6131 extender1"
Quote:
DEVICE SELECTION:
=================

There is no normal device selection. There is no VPT. There is no
Transport Punch Through. There is no Home Theater Mode.

Instead there is a device selection mechanism by key set that has a
superset of the power of all the above; But you must define macros to use
and customize it.

The device keys have no built in meaning. You must define macros to
have any device selection at all.

There are 33 commands that can be used in macros to control device
selection. Each command specifies the key set and the Device Index that will
be used for keys in that set. For example V_TV says the TV device will be
used for keys in the "Volume" set.

There are 4 Key sets: Volume, Transport, Other and Temporary(X).
There are 8 Device Indexes: SAT, TV, PVR, VCR, DVD, AUD, DEV7 and
DEV8. There is one additional command X_Cancel.

To achieve simple device selection (no VPT, TPT or HT) you would put a 3
command macro on each device key, for example the TV device key would have
the macro:
V_TV; T_TV; O_TV

The 6131 has only 6 device keys; But the extender uses 8 device indexes.
You can use any keys you want for the device selection macros (and you can use
device keys for other purposes).

To achieve VPT, replace the V_ command within the macro for each device
that should have VPT enabled with the command from the device to which VPT
should be set. For example, to enable TV VPT on your VCR, the VCR key
macro might be:
V_TV; T_VCR; O_VCR

If you want full VPT (same V_ selection in all device selection macros) you
can save some macro memory by omitting all the V_ commands. You can set the
initial V device using IR. That remains as the V device as long as no V_
commands specify a different V_ device.

To achieve crude TPT (such as most of the UEIC remotes) replace the T_
command within the macro for each device that should have TPT enabled with
T_VCR. For example, your TV key macro might be:
V_TV; T_VCR; O_TV

To achieve dynamic TPT (similar to the URC7800). Omit the T_ command from
the macro for each non Transport device and include it in the macro for each
transport device (VCR, DVD etc.). When you select a non transport device,
the T keys will all remain associated with whatever transport device was
most recently selected.

Shifted keys all go into the key set containing their unshifted
counterpart. For example SHIFT-Stop is in the T set. Phantom keys are in
the O set. Device keys are in the O set; But most people will put macros
on device keys. If a key is a macro, it doesn't matter which set it is in.
The set only matters for KeyMoves and for keys defined by setup code.

I think it is pretty clear.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a little slow. I hope you'll bear with me.
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