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JLanguage wrote:I'll go pick up one at Best Buy and make sure it can do what I want.
Pick what up? If you mean that you're going to pick up a URC-6131 remote from Best Buy, you should be aware that the store bought version of this remote is NOT JP1 ready. To use this remote with JP1 you woulf first need to solder in an EEPROM chip and a 6-pin header. You can buy JP1 ready versions of this remote online though.
I meant the URC-8910. Unfortunately they're charging $40 for it, I wonder if they'll do pricematching?
EDIT: Is it possible to find the Radioshack 15-2116 for sale anywhere? I like the design on that one as much as the URC-6131.
The Robman wrote:You can get the URC-8910 much cheaper than that on ebay. The 15-2116 is discontinued, so you'll only be able to pick one up used.
I would like to try the remote out to make sure I like the feel of the remote, if not I'll have to try a different jp1 model. I can download learned IR functions using jp1 right? Also, I might take your suggestion get the 6131 later, once I'm familiar with the jp1 interface.
Does the sleep timer on any of the remotes work in extender mode? Because my DVD Player doesn't have one, as well as the fact that I'm not sure it's possible to sync a sleep button for the receiver and the TV.
johnsfine wrote:Getting the sleep timer to work in an extender is a pain and almost no one seems to want it.
I've never put that in an extender. I doubt anyone else has. But I'm not certain no one else has.
On my Receiver Sleep Function has a discrete button on the remote, pressing it once activates sleep mode starting at 90 minutes and repeated presses decrease the sleep timer in 10 minute increments.
My TV lacks a discrete button for the sleep timer. The sleep timer is present in the menu. When you turn on the TV you press the menu button four times and the sleep timer is selected. Because the TV's sleep timer starts at 180 minutes you have press the decrease-volume button 9 times to reach 100 minutes. Would not it be possible to have one button that syncs the two devices sleep timers and another that does the decrease increments? Still my dvd player lacks a sleep timer, so it would be nice if that function was simulated by the remote.
I know the above isn't very clear, ask me questions in order to help me clarify.
Last edited by JLanguage on Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:58 pm, edited 3 times in total.
Some sleep functions are built into the device. The remote just sends an ordinary command to initiate and/or adjust the sleep operation. The extender doesn't make that harder, it might even make it easier.
Some sleep functions are built into the remote. The remote sends nothing when you initiate or adjust the sleep operation. You need to leave the remote aimed at the device so that when the sleep time is up the remote can automatically send an ordinary Off command.
Some JP1 remotes have that second type of sleep function built into their firmware. Extenders take over for the part of the firmware that does that, so the extender author would need to add extra code to the extender to keep it from taking away that function.
Because you need to put the remote down aimed at the device for that type of sleep to work, it isn't very popular.
Some sleep functions are built into the device. The remote just sends an ordinary command to initiate and/or adjust the sleep operation. The extender doesn't make that harder, it might even make it easier.
Some sleep functions are built into the remote. The remote sends nothing when you initiate or adjust the sleep operation. You need to leave the remote aimed at the device so that when the sleep time is up the remote can automatically send an ordinary Off command.
Some JP1 remotes have that second type of sleep function built into their firmware. Extenders take over for the part of the firmware that does that, so the extender author would need to add extra code to the extender to keep it from taking away that function.
Because you need to put the remote down aimed at the device for that type of sleep to work, it isn't very popular.
Which kind are you trying to use?
But if you have a remote with an rf extender that's not an issue. I never finished my post so read the edited version above
DaleMac wrote:If you are looking for a cheaper URC-8910, Bluedo have them online for $22.95.
I've already been to bluedo and the URC-9910 and Jp1 cable is only $37 at bluedo. I'm going to get the URC-8910 at bestbuy and see if I like the feel of the remote before I order anything online. Of course if I buy the jp1 cable and then get the URC-8910 from bestbuy I'd want to test out the jp1 functionality. Would I be able to copy the jp1 programming from the 8910 directly to the 9910, or are they too different?
JLanguage wrote:Would I be able to copy the jp1 programming from the 8910 directly to the 9910, or are they too different?
As far as programming is concerned, they are IDENTICAL. Same signature, same body, same key layout, same everything except the 9910 has the RF puck added on internally. Heck, if you look at two of them side by side, you can't tell them apart.
So, yes, you can directly copy an 8910 image to a 9910.
JLanguage wrote:Of course if I buy the jp1 cable and then get the URC-8910 from bestbuy I'd want to test out the jp1 functionality. Would I be able to copy the jp1 programming from the 8910 directly to the 9910, or are they too different?
In this case, yes. That's because internally speaking, the URC-8910 and URC-9910 are the same remote.
As for your earlier SLEEP questions, you can indeed program a macro to activate the sleep function. Normal macros are limited to 15 steps, which might be an issue in your case if you try to combine all of the sleep functions into one macro, but if you were to use an extender you would be able to next the macros, so that would do it. It wouldn't help with the DVD player though.
Also, while older remotes like the 15-1994 and URC-7800 had built-in sleep timers that you could use for devices like your DVD player, I think the function has been dropped from most of the more recent remotes. In other words, the SLEEP button is just a regular button on these remotes.
Rob www.hifi-remote.com Please don't PM me with remote questions, post them in the forums so all the experts can help!
The Robman wrote:
As for your earlier SLEEP questions, you can indeed program a macro to activate the sleep function. Normal macros are limited to 15 steps, which might be an issue in your case if you try to combine all of the sleep functions into one macro, but if you were to use an extender you would be able to next the macros, so that would do it. It wouldn't help with the DVD player though.
Also, while older remotes like the 15-1994 and URC-7800 had built-in sleep timers that you could use for devices like your DVD player, I think the function has been dropped from most of the more recent remotes. In other words, the SLEEP button is just a regular button on these remotes.
Too bad about the sleep timer built-in to the remote, that would be much simpler than doing a macro. Oh well. You mean it's possible to program that macro into one button? Hmm, wouldn't it be a problem that set-up for the TV's sleep timer is only done the first time, wouldn't it be activated again with repeated presses of the sleep key? I guess I could do a long key press for setting it up and a regular key press for adjusting the timer length.
EDIT: Darn it, HT-pros used to be available for $8! They're all gone now, though it looks like.
JLanguage wrote:Darn it, HT-pros used to be available for $8! They're all gone now, though it looks like.
Yeah, when they popped up on the grid at that super-discounted price, this forum got wind of them very quickly, and they were sold out within (I'd estimate) about 2 weeks. And btw, the HT Pro is identical to the 9910- except for color scheme.
Capn Trips wrote:Yeah, when they popped up on the grid at that super-discounted price, this forum got wind of them very quickly, and they were sold out within (I'd estimate) about 2 weeks. And btw, the HT Pro is identical to the 9910- except for color scheme.
(and I'm really enjoying MY two HT Pros )
At $7 a pop I would've gotten at least 3 of them, the URC-9910 is $20 for one! Also I understand the HT-Pro is easier to grip because it has a different material on the bottom. IMHO, after holding a few of my remotes, curvy remotes may be more aesthetically pleasing, but flat remotes are much easier to hold.
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