Panasonic TU-DST51 missing two buttons for NTSC operation

[nickz57]

Device: (Panasonic TU-DST51A (remote eur511157)

Type of device: ATSC, NTSC tuner (settop)

JP1 Remote model: urc-8910

JP1 user? (yep, but I find I'm a little rusty
Still have original remote? never had (picture in owners manual though)

Checked the file section? yes, using AUX 1120 but missing a couple of functions

Checked the Pronto file section (no help found there)

Partially working setup code? Yes, AUX (cable box?) 1120 works very well but missing buttons

The EUR 5111157 remote has a button labeled "NTSC" another labeled "DTV" I need those buttons to enable/disable the NTSC tuner

Thanks!

[johnsfine]

Checked the file section? yes, using AUX 1120 but missing a couple of functions

The setup code of some upgrade file you found is usually useless information. In this case I'm pretty sure it's useless.

The URL of the file you found would tell us what we need to know to help you.

[Capn Trips]

Actually, John, it appears that Video Acc/1120 is a built-in device code for the 8910, so there may not BE such a file.

If you HAVE such an upgrade file that uses Aux/1120, then beyond any additional info that can be gleaned from following John's advice above, if you have a working Device upgrade/code and need to find a few missing functions, you need to do a code search, i.e. build an upgrade using OBCs/EFCs otherwise unused in your device upgrade and test every OBC to see what they do. Eventually, you'll find your missing functions, and perhaps a few other undocumented ones, to boot.

[johnsfine]

The EFC number 052 is listed in one CCF file as the "DTV" button.

In other CCF files it has a variety of names, some of which seem to be discrete input selects.

[underquark]

The EFC number 052 is listed in one CCF file as the "DTV" button. In other CCF files it has a variety of names...

In my file it works the "N" button which resets brightness, color, etc. to supposedly normal values. Using a different subdevice it operates the full/upper/lower text screen functions.

[Capn Trips]

I presume now that the AUX/1120 code you're using is NOT an upgrade, but is a built-in code. If that is true, then it appears to me that you may have to go through a bit of a "brute force" technique to search for the code(s) you desire.

First, since there is no way to directly download that device "upgrade" from the ROM, to re-create that upgrade you have two choices: (1) learn all of the functions that work from you 8910 to another learning JP1 remote, and analyze the signals, build the upgrade and identify gaps; or (2) Keymove EVERY button that does something from this device code to another button. The easiest way to do this would be to move each from the device you have to the same button in ANOTHER device (for example if this upgrade is assigned to the "Aux" device, keymove each button to the "VCR" device). Then examine these keymoves in IR to identify all of the EFCs/OBCs used and search for "gaps" or unused OBCs to test.

[nickz57]

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... ile_id=279
is a link to the file I am using.

Are you guys saying to look for gap (unused numbers) and try loading them in on unassigned keys to see what I get? If so, is this explained in one of the keymaster or IR guides?
Thanks!

[Capn Trips]

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... ile_id=279
is a link to the file I am using.

Are you guys saying to look for gap (unused numbers) and try loading them in on unassigned keys to see what I get?

Yes. And you need not use only unassigned keys.

If so, is this explained in one of the keymaster or IR guides?

Does it need to be? Look at the "Code List" tab, sort it by OBCs and you will see all of yor functions are neatly grouped between OBC 004 and 028, with one gap. Create a whole new upgrade using ONLY gap codes. Repeat until you've tested all of them. When you're done, you can always upload your working IR setup again. A prudent search would test the gap (OBC 015) and then work outward (000-004 and 029-031 and on up). It only costs you some time.

[nickz57]

I see the gap and understand what you are telling me but do not understand how to make entries into keymaster to add/ change buttons. buttons. This is what I meant by asking about the keymaster documentation. I will go review what I can find.

Thanks for your time!

[gfb107]

You can't add/change buttons. You can however, add/change functions, using any name and OBC you want. You can then assign these to any buttons you like.

[Capn Trips]

I see the gap and understand what you are telling me but do not understand how to make entries into keymaster to add/ change buttons. buttons. This is what I meant by asking about the keymaster documentation. I will go review what I can find.

Thanks for your time!

Greg described it in the preceding post. A brief example I threw together is HERE. Note that I just took your upgrade and incremented the device code by 1, and entered a few functions (I simply called them OBC XXX) and assigned them to buttons. You can do that for every OBC up to 255. In fact, you could make several such upgrades, each with a different device code, and upload all of them to IR, assigning each upgrade to a different device on your remote and test a whole buttload of "unassigned" OBCs in one fell swoop. Just keep good track of what button in what device mode did what for you.

[nickz57]

Thanks for your time guys! I think I understand now. I'll play with this across the weekend.

[The Robman]

Just FYI, I created the upgrade file that you found. I acquired one of these HDTV boxes as part of an ebay auction, but it didn't have a remote. I found a really bad Pronto CCF file where only one button decoded properly, but that was enough to tell me which setup code was a match, and I then confirmed that it worked. I then tried all the remaining OBCs to see what additional functions I could find, but I guess I didn't find the ones that you're looking for.