New 15-2116 Owner with questions

Optimus Prime · Post by **Optimus Prime** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:35 pm

Hi.

I just picked up a 15-2116 at Rat Shack today, last one left at the store, and I have a few questions. I also just ordered a JP1 cable.

The reason I purchased the remote was so I could create a replacement remote for my Optimus Pro Logic Reciever. I have lost the remote to the device and there are no replacements to be found anywhere. I've looked for a full week now.

There are some special functions on my reciever for the surround sound and speaker levels that I cannot adjust without the remote. There are no buttons on the reciever itself to make the adjustments.

So I guess I'm asking if it is possible to update my remote with the STAV-3680 or 3690 reciever codes. Or, could I update it with the 15-1994 or 1995 codes, since those remotes actually have the STAV-3680 codes in them from the factory?

The Reciever is model STAV-3680, Cat No. 31-3039.
Manual is here:
http://support.radioshack.com/support_a ... /62594.pdf

johnsfine · Post by **johnsfine** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 2:00 pm

If you know a setup code in a 15-1994 that controls your device then you can easily transfer the data from the devices4.xls spreadsheet to KM or RM to recreate that setup code for another model of JP1 remote.

johnsfine · Post by **johnsfine** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 2:15 pm

If you don't know what setup code you need for the STAV-3680, it may take a fair amount of experimentation. Some of those Optimus devices are relabeled Pioneer devices (which should be quite easy to identify the right JP1 upgrade for). But apparently others are not Pioneer. See this thread:

http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/mb ... ht=optimus

I also found an LIRC file that tells me the STAV-3560 is a pretty generic Pioneer device (and gives details):
http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/optimus/STAV-3560

But I don't see anything on the STAV-3680

Optimus Prime · Post by **Optimus Prime** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 3:05 pm

Thanks for the prompt replies.

The information I gathered was from this page
http://support.radioshack.com/support_v ... /58321.htm
It's for the 150-1994 remote which I assume is the 15-1994?

Listed under the Tuners/Receivers section.
It's the same 1023 code used on most remotes for the Pioneer and Optimus Receivers. My 15-2116 remote does all the basic functions but it will not let me go in and adjust the sound levels for each of the five 100 watt amps.

There was a slide control on the STAV-3680 remote labeled Audio/Surround and there was also a C mode button.

johnsfine · Post by **johnsfine** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:02 pm

This has become a very different question than I thought you were asking.

You have a Pioneer device (rebranded Optimus) that is basically supported by the Audio/1023 setup code in the 15-2116. You want to know how to add support for some functions that are missing from Audio/1023 (and you lack the original remote to learn from).

I think some of those functions may be supported by KeyMoves using the setup code Amp/0013. I don't know whether those are the ones in the advanced codes list for Amp/0013
http://www.hifi-remote.com/cgi-bin2/ueic.cgi?amp_0013

That's about as far as you could go before you get the JP1 cable.

Once you have the cable, you should look for existing JP1 upgrade files that are extension of Audio/1023. Most of the Pioneer files in the audio folder should be that
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jp1/files ... des/Audio/
and/or you should look at the Pioneer master list file that Rob put there.

If you need more details, try to ask more clearly and hopefully a Pioneer expert (such as Rob himself) will address the Pioneer specific aspects of your question.

Optimus Prime · Post by **Optimus Prime** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 6:50 pm

Thanks for the help.

I'll try to be more clear next time, but it is kinda hard to describe things when I'm completely new to all this stuff. I wasn't sure if I wanted to add more codes to the Audio/1023 or just get the file from an older remote. In other words, I didn't know if 1023 for the 15-2116 is the exact same file as the 1023 in the 15-1994.

For now I'll just try to find out what a KeyMove is and how to test them on my remote before I ask anymore questions.

Mark Pierson · Post by **Mark Pierson** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:16 pm

Optimus Prime wrote:In other words, I didn't know if 1023 for the 15-2116 is the exact same file as the 1023 in the 15-1994.

They're essentially the same, at least when it comes to core functionality.

For now I'll just try to find out what a KeyMove is and how to test them on my remote before I ask anymore questions.

Unfortunately, Audio/1023 uses 2-byte commands so you can't do them on the remote itself. You'll need a JP1 cable and IR in order to program them into your configuration.

johnsfine · Post by **johnsfine** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 8:00 pm

Mark Pierson wrote:They're essentially the same, at least when it comes to core functionality.

I think the note Rob put in devices.xls (and I think elsewhere) indicates that Audio/1023 in the 15-1994 is defective. Maybe I misunderstood. But whether it's defective in the 15-1994 or not, it's correct(ed) in the 15-2116.

Mark Pierson wrote:Unfortunately, Audio/1023 uses 2-byte commands so you can't do them on the remote itself. You'll need a JP1 cable and IR in order to program them into your configuration.

The KeyMoves comment was in reference to using AMP/0013 KeyMoves to fill in some of the gaps in Audio/1023. You can't program Audio/1023 EFC codes directly on the remote itself, but you can program AMP/0013 based EFC KeyMoves into a device mode that is programmed for Audio/1023, even without JP1. I think that specific combination has been discussed in several threads in the RC OneForAll forum:
http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/mb ... l/list.cgi

Waiting for the JP1 cable may be the better choice. These things get much easier with JP1.

Optimus Prime · Post by **Optimus Prime** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 8:35 pm

Well, I can't thank you guys enough for all the help.

You guys sure are patient with us Noobs

Optimus Prime · Post by **Optimus Prime** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 11:22 pm

Exactly how do I download an upgrade file.

For instance this file:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/cgi-bin2/ueic.cgi?amp_0013

Is not a file.

How do I make it a file so I can load it in KM?
Do I copy and paste it as a txt file?
If so what parts do I copy?

gfb107 · Post by **gfb107** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 6:42 am

You are correct, that isn't an upgrade file. Those are just advanced codes that can be used with setup code AMP/0013.

If you are looking for a device upgrade for this device, I suggest you follow johnsfine's suggestion and look in the Audio folder in the Files sections, for the Pioneer Master List.

Optimus Prime · Post by **Optimus Prime** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:26 pm

Everything seems to work for my reciever/amp except for the C mode options.

I'm surprised that even the master list does not have them listed.
If I can track down a remote for the STAV-3680 I will upload them.

Closest match I could find was the Optimus_STAV-3270_A-V_amp_7800.txt.

Optimus Prime · Post by **Optimus Prime** » Sun Feb 06, 2005 11:19 pm

Cool. Now everything works except for the 5-D theater but I dont really need it. The reciever remembers which input has which setting so all is good now.

Thanks guys.
JP1 rocks