advice for JP1 dummy with serious remote issues, please

Mark W · Post by **Mark W** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 11:38 am

Thanks again Jon, I can't wait to try it!

Mark W · Post by **Mark W** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 6:07 pm

Quick update: I moved Jon's file to my remote and quickly tested it.

Pioneer receiver - still does not work at all
X1 projector - now works!
Panasonic DVD - only a few functions seem to work
Hughes DTivo - seems to work perfectly
Zenith HD - works perfectly, thanks for the extra buttons Jon!

I will try and delete the 1023 upgrade to see if that does anything, and bring my DVD file that was working before back in and check back later hopefully. Thanks,

Mark

MaskedMan · Post by **MaskedMan** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:32 pm

Use the preset code for the pioneer, AMP0013. It accepts EFC's. Some EFC that might be of interest, cursor pad- RIGHT-191, LEFT-195, UP-189, DOWN-193. Some inputs CDR/TAPE-061, DVD/LD-192. most of the inputs are already mapped. What pioneer commands are you looking for?

jon_armstrong · Post by **jon_armstrong** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:52 pm

My upgrade was flawed for the receiver. Try the file now -- same link.

I'll look at the other problems later.

jon_armstrong · Post by **jon_armstrong** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 4:06 am

I also found the problem with the DVD and updated the file. Now eveything should work. Same link as before.

Mark W · Post by **Mark W** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 5:57 am

OK, I did not see Jon's last two messages before I tried what I said I would before. I deleted the upgrade code from the receiver and it did start to work. I didn't have time to check much, basically just power volume, component changing. They all worked. I was really happy to see that. For the DVD, I brought my old DVD file back in from KM that worked before, but I was surpised when it did not work. Basically, only power seemed to work.

So I'm glad to see Jon's posts, I'm almost there! Thanks very much, I will try again tonight.

Mark W · Post by **Mark W** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 6:06 am

MaskedMan wrote:Use the preset code for the pioneer, AMP0013. It accepts EFC's. Some EFC that might be of interest, cursor pad- RIGHT-191, LEFT-195, UP-189, DOWN-193. Some inputs CDR/TAPE-061, DVD/LD-192. most of the inputs are already mapped. What pioneer commands are you looking for?

I'm not sure yet what commands I'm looking for yet. I was just trying to get all of the components working, and now that I'm almost there, I'll start thinking more about what specific functions I need and where the buttons are. I'll also start thinking about macros for "watch DVD", "watch Tivo", and "watch HD" Thanks.

Mark W · Post by **Mark W** » Sat Jul 24, 2004 9:12 am

Another update, thanks everyone for your help. Everything is working correctly now except the A/V Receiver. Some keys are working. The volume, power, mute and a few others are working. Most importantly, the component selection is very strange. It seems to work intermittantly, but even so, when I use one of the number keys one time, it will turn to say TV, and then later pressing that same button will give me the tuner.

Jon, one specific question, I think you said that you have the X1 projector. Are there known codes for discretely changing the display format? Specifically choosing native, 16x9, or 4x3? The resize function currently toggles between them. Thanks.

jon_armstrong · Post by **jon_armstrong** » Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:41 am

Mark,

Are the receiver commands that don't work correctly from Audio/1310 that I did or from the original upgrade Audio 1320?

Try learning the input commands from the OEM remote. If the learned commands work then post the IR file with the learned commands.

I have a Sony projector, but I looked at the x1 upgrade which I originally translated from the InFocus website. There is also a generic Infocus upgrade in the files and it has discrete power commands and aspect commands. Try those. Many times the discrete commands from other models will work.

Mark W · Post by **Mark W** » Sun Jul 25, 2004 9:37 am

Jon,

The receiver commands that aren't working correctly are from the last file that you sent me. I learned some receiver commands to the remote and posted the file as Mark1994HTL. At first, I learned the DVD input to the 0 button. That worked fine. Then I learned DVD to 1, TV to 2, VCR to 3, TUN to 4, CD to 5, and CD-R to 6.

When I try it, 1 is VCR, 2 is CD-r, 3 is DVD 4 is TV, 5 is CD, and 6 is CD-R. 0 is still DVD. Very frustrating.

As far as the X1 discete power and aspect goes, I thought the method of doing that was opening KM and entering the EFC codes that I saw for the functions in the Functions tab of KM. I tried that, I noted the values from the generic file, and opened my X1 and 4800 file and entered 020 and 024 for 16x9, and 4x3. I thought by some reading that I had done that KM would then fill in the OBC and Hex values. It didn't. It just changed stored the values as 20 and 24 in the functions field. It didn't look like this really did anything. Is that not the right way to do that?

Sort of an unrelated note. After having the problems with the learning, I thought it would be a good idea to put a fresh set of batteries in. So I did, and when I tried to dowload from the remote, I got a message saying there was no response from the remote, check if it is connected. So I put the other batteries back in and then it worked fine. I then tried it with one of the batteries out. It worked fine. Then when I put the new batteries back in, would not work again. Why is that? Thanks for any help you can provide.

jon_armstrong · Post by **jon_armstrong** » Sun Jul 25, 2004 7:23 pm

Mark W wrote:The receiver commands that aren't working correctly are from the last file that you sent me. I learned some receiver commands to the remote and posted the file as Mark1994HTL. At first, I learned the DVD input to the 0 button. That worked fine. Then I learned DVD to 1, TV to 2, VCR to 3, TUN to 4, CD to 5, and CD-R to 6.

When I try it, 1 is VCR, 2 is CD-r, 3 is DVD 4 is TV, 5 is CD, and 6 is CD-R. 0 is still DVD. Very frustrating.

Here is a table of the commands on the numerals in Mark1994HTL.ir . If you learn a command it will take precedence over the device upgrade. Mark1994HTL.ir only contains three learned commands on numerals 0, 5, and 6.

0 CD (learned - DVD)
1 VCR
2 CD-R
3 DVD
4 TV
5 learned CD
6 learned CD-R
9 Tuner

Now the questions are:

1. Do 0 and 5 both work correctly as DVD?
2. Do 2 and 6 both work as CD-R?
3. Which numeral commands still give you a different command when you push it multiple times?

As far as the X1 discete power and aspect goes, I thought the method of doing that was opening KM and entering the EFC codes that I saw for the functions in the Functions tab of KM. I tried that, I noted the values from the generic file, and opened my X1 and 4800 file and entered 020 and 024 for 16x9, and 4x3. I thought by some reading that I had done that KM would then fill in the OBC and Hex values. It didn't. It just changed stored the values as 20 and 24 in the functions field. It didn't look like this really did anything. Is that not the right way to do that?

KM can be set to enter either EFC OR OBC in cell C5 on the setup tab. The file upgrade x1_and_4800.txt is set to enter OBC (as is the generic file) enter the OBC's 60 and 61 instead. You mus also assign those commands to a physical button in the buttons tab.

After having the problems with the learning, I thought it would be a good idea to put a fresh set of batteries in. So I did, and when I tried to dowload from the remote, I got a message saying there was no response from the remote, check if it is connected. So I put the other batteries back in and then it worked fine. I then tried it with one of the batteries out. It worked fine. Then when I put the new batteries back in, would not work again. Why is that? Thanks for any help you can provide.

It IS a good idea to replace the bateries in both the OEM remote and the OFA remote when encountering learning problems. The behavior you describe is pretty typical. It has to do with the voltage levels in the interface. Each parallel port seems to be different. New batteries have slightly higher voltage and that sends some JP1 interfaces over the edge and you have to remove battereis in order to communicate with it. We are reading and writing to the EEPROM and you can do that just fine without batteries.

Mark W · Post by **Mark W** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 12:35 pm

Jon,

That simple explanation for the KM help with the X1 discrete aspect ratio functions in KM worked. Thanks. I moved the file to IR and then up to the remote and tried it but it didn't work. I didn't get a chance to look into it yet though. I'm sure it might be a simple thing that I missed that I can figure out. I will post a question in a separate thread to make sure that the X1 handles that discrete function.

The next thing that I have to do is sit down and figure out exactly what functions from the receiver that I NEED to have work.

I'm almost there, thanks again.

Mark W · Post by **Mark W** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 7:08 pm

Woo hooo, I'm almost there! I wound up learning some of the Pioneer receiver functions that I needed. It has mostly what I need now. I also created macros for "Watch DVD", "Watch Tivo", "Watch HD" and "Power All Off". They all pretty much work. There is still a glitch with the receiver. I think that the discrete power off put it in a mode that the discete power on then does not work. I only tried it once, and haven't gotten back to it yet. Thanks everyone.

Hey Jon, do you have any use for a free RF 15-1995? I have some extras and wouldn't mind sending one to you as a thanks for creating those files for me. Let me know.

jon_armstrong · Post by **jon_armstrong** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 6:55 am

Mark W wrote:There is still a glitch with the receiver. I think that the discrete power off put it in a mode that the discete power on then does not work. I only tried it once, and haven't gotten back to it yet. Thanks everyone.

If that is the case then a macro for PowerOn|Power Toggle will be the same as a discrete Off.

Hey Jon, do you have any use for a free RF 15-1995? I have some extras and wouldn't mind sending one to you as a thanks for creating those files for me. Let me know.

I really appreciate the offer, but I have a pretty good inventory right now. But, now that you have mastered JP1, you may find a use for them! If you really have some you don't need, Rob Crowe has a remote museum and I'm sure he would appreciate the donation.