JP1 Remotes

[adrianomartins]

Hello,

I have a One For All Contour URC-1210 remote control which I would like to use as a Toshiba CT-9908.

I have downloaded the rmir file and would like to upload it via RemoteMaster.
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=26943
Download from URC-1210 seems to work. Raw download:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=26944

But, the following error message appears during upload:
The signature of the attached remote does not match the signature you are trying to upload...
If I click on "Upload to the remote" anyway, the message appears: writeRemote returned -1

Can anyone help to solve the problem? Any help is greatly appreciated, thank you.

[The Robman]

Your raw download correctly shows a URC-1210 Contour, but your rmir file shows an OARUSB04G, so I'm really curious how you managed to get that file, like what were the exact steps you followed?

Try this, use RMIR to open your raw download file (ie, raw_download_3680.ir), then try uploading that to your URC-1210.

Also, when you're looking to make a JP1 remote emulate an OEM remote, you should not think of it in terms of the model number of the OEM remote (ie, Toshiba CT-9908), you need to think of it in terms of the make and model of the device that you're trying to control. So, please tell me, what sort of device does a Toshiba CT-9908 control? If it's a TV, for example, you will find upgrades to control the device in the TV folder here, or if it's a projector, you'll find them in the Projector folder, etc. The upgrades will be labeled with the make and model of the device, not the remote.
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[adrianomartins]

Thanks Rob, not an expert.
I downloaded the rmir from here https://forums.arcade-museum.com/threads/toshiba-ct-9908-universal-remote-jp1-upgrade.331041/
What is the quickest way to create (or convert) the same rmir for my URC1210?
Thanks in advance.

[mdavej]

I would open 2 sessions of RMIR, one for your remote, the other for the file you downloaded.

- In session 1, download your existing confg and save it for a baseline.
- In session 2, go to the Devices tab, open and save the Toshiba device as its own RMDU file.
- Go back session 1 and on the Devices tab, click New, then open the RMDU you just saved, tweak the buttons and layout as desired, and click OK.
- Then upload to your remote.

[HamburgerHelper1]

From my understanding i downloaded the file that was referenced for the ToshibaCt9908
it is the OARUSB4000 with learns but i could not convert to upgrade maybe someone else can figure out the file There also is no devices added to it so i assume the device is the learns
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=26945
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[adrianomartins]

[adrianomartins]

[The Robman]

How long ago did you download that RMIR file from the arcade site because the link to his Google Drive no longer works?

At any rate, as Randy noted, that RMIR doesn't contain an upgrade, it contains learns. He used the STB device mode, which makes me think this isn't for a TV or Projector but some kind of set top box.

The learns show NEC1 64.191 and we don't have any upgrades that use that, and I'm not aware of any official setup codes that use it either.

I've been trying to Google the remote model number to see what it is and it appears to be some sort of technician service remote which is used to adjust things on a Toshiba projector.
https://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=145055.0

I have created an upgrade file for it here:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=26947

I have added it to your raw file here:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=26946

It would really help us if you were to tell us why you need this remote and what you intend to use it for.
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[adrianomartins]

Sure.
I have an arcade game from Sega with a 50" rear projector TV from Toshiba. This projector has a remote control CT-9908, which you can't find on ebay or so: https://forums.arcade-museum.com/threads/toshiba-ct-9908-universal-remote-jp1-upgrade.331041/
In this thread a user has apparently created a rmir file for OARUSB04G. Now I would like to reprogramme my URC1210 into a CT-9908 and thought this can be done with the existing rmir.
Let me know in case you need more information.

[The Robman]

[adrianomartins]

Yes thank you, I've seen it but haven't tested it yet as I'm travelling.
I was just replying to the question "It would really help us if you could tell us why you need this remote and what you want to use it for."

Stupid question: I can upload the attached rmir to my URC1210 and test it, correct?
I only need the rmdu file if I want to make further adjustments, right?
Thanks again

[The Robman]

Correct.

To bring you up to speed, RMDU files are for single devices and RMIR files are for your complete remote.

So, typically, a normal JP1 user, you would be looking to have their JP1 remote replace several OEM remotes. So, first they would connect their remote to their computer using a JP1 cable, then download from the remote and save the contents as their first RMIR file. Then, they would look for upgrades for each of their devices, or perhaps build new upgrades if one doesn't exist, and save those. Then they'd add each of them to their RMIR session and save the results as a new RMIR file. Then they might add further customizations, like keymoves and macros, and save that as a new RMIR file. Saving versions like this means you can go back a step if you screw things up.

Now, back to the case at hand. The RMIR file that you downloaded from that other site was formatted for a completely different remote. You can't install RMIR files from other remotes, that just won't work. Furthermore, that RMIR file doesn't include an upgrade, it just includes learned signals. So, I converted those learns into an upgrade, which I have posted. I have also added that upgrade to your RMIR file, so that is ready to be loaded into your remote.

Even if you decide that you want to move the buttons around, you don't need to go back to the RMDU file, you can do that in RMIR, just go to Devices, select the upgrade and click Edit.
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[adrianomartins]

Thanks Rob for your explanations, very helpful.
I uploaded the rmir you created, which also worked.
Unfortunately, the remote control does not seem to work, i.e. the projector does not react... Too bad, I'll have to see what the problem might be.

[The Robman]

Well, I was curious about that, because from what I can tell, this is a service remote that you use for some special configuration purposes on projectors. You have a Toshiba rear projection TV, which isn't the same thing.

Would I be correct in assuming that you are just trying to create a working remote for your Toshiba rear projection TV, you're not trying to hack it or re-configure it? I don't think you've mentioned the model number of your TV yet either, which is normally the first step for such a request.

As best as I can tell, all Toshiba TVs use the same codeset, I'm not aware of rear projection TVs being any different but I don't know for sure, and it's not like there are that many rear projections still in service. But regardless, it looks like the URC-1210 has 5 TV setup codes that use this codeset, so give these a try, and if they work, you could try any Toshiba TV upgrade from the file section if you want to fine tune it:

1457
1508
2197
3434
4291
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[HamburgerHelper1]

Rob What I see on the learned signals is NEC1 DEV 64 No Sub Device
Your upgrade has NEC1 DEV 64 Sub Device 191
How did you come up with the Sub Device ?
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