369006 New Remote URC-3660

HamburgerHelper1 · Post by **HamburgerHelper1** » Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:26 am

Questions to other owners of this remote.
To me the rubber buttons of this remote seemed to be made of a thinner material than the other remotes i have. I thought maybe because i was used to the older remotes that this was just the normal for today's remotes or that is why this one costs less than what we normally would expect.This was with the first one i bought. Then the store got a second batch in and I just opened my second one and the buttons just don't seem as sturdy, that the rubber just isn't fitting in the plastic correctly. Have any of you notice anything similar and what is your general opinion on the quality of the build of it?

dkraines · Post by **dkraines** » Fri Apr 01, 2022 5:33 am

I was going to post about this, on mine, the buttons aren't the best, particularly, the arrow buttons are wiggly and the press is not buttery smooth. But at least they are big, for instance, on the OARUSB04G, the arrow buttons are way too small for my hands. The other buttons just feel cheap. But it works, I call it a win with the functionality.

I'm glad there's a lifeline to what seems to be a dying technology (IE remotes you don't talk to, I don't really care to hear people commanding electronics with their voice, actually, I find it quite annoying).

Spooky77 · Post by **Spooky77** » Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:51 am

@HambugerHelper1, dkraines

good issue...

I don't know if the URC-3660 and URC-3661 are approaching physical identical. The first impression is good, but after the second view I can confirm the cheap quality feeling.
I have a URC-3661 remote. All keys seems to be rubber dome keys, but some keys around and including the cross, sounds sometimes like membrane keys. First I thought I have bought a "lemon". After your both experiences, it seems to be the only remained quality option for remotes nowadays.

mdavej · Post by **mdavej** » Fri Apr 01, 2022 11:35 am

Yep, that right arrow is a little dodgy on both of my 3660's. Small quibble though. Other than that, love this remote. It's been a long time since you could get such a good, cheap JP1 remote in a major store, especially a backlit, 6-device learning one like this with tons of buttons and advanced features.

A big thanks to Graham, Hamburger and others for working out the challenging RDF on this one. I have a feeling it will benefit lots of users as this should turn out to be a popular JP1 remote. It's moved straight to the top of my recommended list right there with Insignia, which it actually trumps on price, availability and device count.

Spooky77 · Post by **Spooky77** » Fri Apr 01, 2022 12:01 pm

@mdavej,

here in Central Europe you got the URC-3661 in a major store for ~24.99EUR after all taxes, without shipping, this is round about USD 27.66. The remote is good, but not so cheap like the URC-3660 at your place. I love this remote too, its more handy than the URC-7955 for me. But I hope it's worth and is useable some years without issues.

MrMoody · Post by **MrMoody** » Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:38 pm

mdavej wrote:Yep, that right arrow is a little dodgy on both of my 3660's. Small quibble though. Other than that, love this remote. It's been a long time since you could get such a good, cheap JP1 remote in a major store, especially a backlit, 6-device learning one like this with tons of buttons and advanced features.

I never really noticed before you guys brought it up, but mine seems to have a bit more stiffness and button travel than the other (non metal dome) UEIs I have, and both the right and left arrows seem to have a slight kink as though the rubber dome has a fold or hits the plastic if you hit it just wrong, but they seem reasonable and hopefully will hold up OK.

It's been what, 7 years or so since Walmart clearanced out the RCAs? And they weren't backlit.

HamburgerHelper1 · Post by **HamburgerHelper1** » Sat Apr 02, 2022 1:50 pm

Just like i thought the plastic backlight diffuser is probably causing the key problems
A closer look and The pads are hitting the edges of the holes because they don't line up perfectly, I ran into this once before, enlarging the holes should fix the problem,
It actually seems like it is a pretty solid remote after all just a minor flaw

HamburgerHelper1 · Post by **HamburgerHelper1** » Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:38 pm

Update on the keys. This remote had a bad vol+ key. I had to press real hard to get it to work. The plastic light diffuser has beveled holes in it for the buttons,the bevel faces downward towards the circuit board, to me it should face upward for the keys to fit down into it. Since the diffuser only fits one way I enlarged and beveled the hole for the vol+ key
with a small file. Vol+ now works great so to me it was worth looking at it.I did not spend much time on the arrow keys because they have 2 contacts on them and I think that is part of the "feel" we get on those keys. I'm sure i will try fixing them as well.
Ill consider this remote experimental since I already own three of them and will buy more

Post by **mathdon** » Wed Apr 06, 2022 11:41 am

I have now posted development build RMIR v2.14.5 in the RMIR Development folder on SourceForge. The support for Real-time Macros has been updated to allow them to be created in RMIR, while previously they could only be edited once created on the remote itself. This updated support also allows creation of Real-time DSMs, which should meet the needs of HamburgerHelper1. The RDF and map for the URC-3660 have been updated to include FastFwd(Held) and Rewind(Held) as separate on the map from FastFwd and Rewind, the two related buttons being shown side by side in place of one larger button, as discussed earlier in this thread. I have made corresponding changes for the European version, the URC-3661. The RDFs for these two remotes currently allows the creation of Real-time Macros and DSMs on shifted App keys as well as on unshifted ones. If testing shows that these do not work, then I will amend the RDFs to prevent this.

HamburgerHelper1 · Post by **HamburgerHelper1** » Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:48 pm

Impressive
Real-time Macros and DSMs on shift and non shift App keys work
and you did it all without receiving the remote I sent you yet.
Very Impressive I hope you receive the remote today to play with

For testing purposes I added $30 to your RealTimeMacroData Line
and i was able to add a working Real time DSM on the #1 key as well, so maybe all keys?
Thanks Graham

HamburgerHelper1 · Post by **HamburgerHelper1** » Thu Apr 07, 2022 12:59 am

To explain my usage I added all the digit keys to the RealTimeMacroData Line
Then I have a real time macro of my OTA channels set up on each digit on another device key This way i have a one button direct access to each channel without having to push four keys such as 32.1. I did not like the Fav channel scan that the colored keys do so this method has turned out to be a good alternative
Once again
Thanks Graham
You turned this remote into a very powerful one with many features

Post by **mathdon** » Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:34 am

@HamburgerHelper1

It appears from what you have done that the URC-3660 supports real-time macros on all keys. To prevent this needing a huge list of keycodes in the RDF, I have extended RMIR to allow "All" in place of a keycode list. I have posted development build RMIR 2.14.6 in the RMIR Development folder with this addition and with the RDF updated with this option. I would be grateful if you could check that this works, with real-time macros supported not just on the App and digit keys.

I look forward to receiving my remote from you soon. Tracking shows that it left Heathrow Airport on Tuesday and is somewhere on its way to me, but it is not here yet.

HamburgerHelper1 · Post by **HamburgerHelper1** » Thu Apr 07, 2022 7:44 am

DSM Results

No with Rew Held or FF Held
No with Device Keys
No with color keys

All others worked but should retest
Surprise Activities keys worked
Should re-test because of a weird quirk or bug
Somtimes when making a DSM and hit ok it doen't show up in the list
switch tabs then back and its there but this also seemed to only do it when it was a DSM that doen't work anyway so maybe some sort of conflict

HamburgerHelper1 · Post by **HamburgerHelper1** » Thu Apr 07, 2022 2:53 pm

Did some more test and quirk appears when i try to put DSM on colored keys but we knew those won't work anyway.

A possible bug that appears for this remote. I learned a signal and the signal works
Irscrutinizer identifies protocol correctly But RMIR gives me
"Malformed signal 00 found where burst table expected"
This appears using both Irdecoders under options
I tested learns with a different remote and RMIR identified protocol correctly

HamburgerHelper1 · Post by **HamburgerHelper1** » Fri Apr 08, 2022 6:22 am

*********** Another feature to add *****************

As an experiment I added 1=0 to the [MultiMacros] Line
I put a normal Macro on the "1" key
A short press gave me my digit "1" and a long press ran my Macro
Only A normal macro and DSM work but not timed macros
Not sure how that is going to work in the RDF
If use as multimacro i loose the ability to use timed macro on a key that supports it. so far it looks like set it for one or the other
So more experimenting to do