JVC RM-C1900S

[probono]

The codes of my JVC RM-C1900S are as shown below. How do I know which setup code on the OFA remote really sends these most closely? Using automatic search, I have found a code that appears to work but for example sends a different code for "AV" (original code: protocol = JVC, device = 15, obc = 26), JP1 remote sends something that the TV set also reacts to but in a different way (protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 19). I could probably overwrite that button using an upgrade file, a keymove, and/or a learned code, but I would assume there must be an easier way?

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protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 28 # mute
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 23 # power
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 33 # 1
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 34 # 2
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 35 # 3
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 36 # 4
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 37 # 5
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 38 # 6
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 39 # 7
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 40 # 8
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 41 # 9
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 4 # i
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 32 # 0
protocol = JVC, device = 15, obc = 26 # AV
protocol = JVC, device = 35, obc = 60 # red
protocol = JVC, device = 35, obc = 61 # green
protocol = JVC, device = 35, obc = 62 # yellow
protocol = JVC, device = 35, obc = 63 # blue
protocol = JVC, device = 67, obc = 16 # TV
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 122 # menu
protocol = JVC, device = 35, obc = 19 # top_menu
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 230 # back
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 31 # vol-
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 30 # vol+
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 24 # p-
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 25 # p+
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 91 # left
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 124 # up
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 90 # right
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 123 # down
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 10 # OK
protocol = JVC, device = 35, obc = 17 # func1
protocol = JVC, device = 35, obc = 9 # rew
protocol = JVC, device = 35, obc = 4 # play
protocol = JVC, device = 35, obc = 48 # ffwd
protocol = JVC, device = 35, obc = 2 # func2
protocol = JVC, device = 35, obc = 50 # rec
protocol = JVC, device = 35, obc = 21 # stop
protocol = JVC, device = 35, obc = 6 # pause
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 147 # zoom
protocol = JVC, device = 3, obc = 66 # func3
protocol = JVC, device = 15, obc = 96 # func4
protocol = JVC, device = 15, obc = 97 # func5

Note that there are different devices used on this OEM remote. Can this even be replicated with just one set up code on the OFA remotes?

[3FG]

You're supposed to fill out the template (See announcements at the top of this sub forum). But I'll assume that you're working with a URC-2981.

The first thing to notice is that this is the JVC IR protocol, but with mulitple device numbers. That's a clue that you should be looking for a Combo executor. Using the Lookup Tool (link at the top of the page) and searching on JVC protocols, we see that some remotes have a simple JVC executor, and nearly all newer remotes have an executor called JVC Combo.

The URC-2981 is a new remote and it isn't included in the Lookup Tool, so that makes finding the candidate setup codes more difficult. But since I worked with you on making the RDF file, I know that PID 0098 has the following:

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TV 0653, 1653, 1818, 2118
Cable 1901
Audio 1374

So you could try those, with the TV setup codes being the most likely to succeed.

Since you have the decodes of all functions, there are two other ways of proceeding, and most JP1 folks would use one of these.

1) Keymoves. If you have a setup code that is almost correct, and only a couple of functions need to be added or revised, you can use RMIR, select JVC Combo as the executor on the Devices Tab, and enter the device and OBC numbers. RM will calculate the corresponding EFCs, and you can then add these to the Keymove tab of RMIR. Or you could enter the EFCs manually with the 994 command.

2) Most user will just make an upgrade. Enter the learned device numbers, OBCs, and function names on the Devices Tab. You can do an entire column by pasting it into RM. From your post above, I copied the code section into Notepad+ as a text editor, which can select columns of text. Of course if you've learned the signals and have them in the Learned Signal Tab, the numbers are already parsed into columns. Then assign the buttons. When I first started using JP1, I though this seemed in some sense wasteful, since a nearly correct setup code already existed. So I'd use keymoves. Over time, I've joined the majority, and just make an upgrade. It also allows you to give back to the community by posting your upgrade. Then folks without a learning remote have access to working signals.

[probono]

Thanks 3FG. I was using setup code 0653 and will now try the others. Sorry for not posting in the right format, will promise to do so next time. Your guesses were all correct.

I am still very new to all of this so please forgive my slowness. Will experiment with all ways you described and post the results.

[probono]

Trying the upgrade route first, I entered under "Setup" Setup Code 7777, Protocol JVC Combo, and under "Functions":

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mute	62210	244	28	3	3F C7
power	62418	122	23	3	3F 17
1	62398	217	33	3	3F 7B
2	62334	215	34	3	3F BB
3	62462	219	35	3	3F 3B
4	62238	212	36	3	3F DB
5	62366	216	37	3	3F 5B
6	62302	214	38	3	3F 9B
7	62430	218	39	3	3F 1B
8	62254	085	40	3	3F EB
9	62382	089	41	3	3F 6B
i	62234	180	4	3	3F DF
0	62270	213	32	3	3F FB
AV	29282	247	26	15	0F A7
red	04870	020	60	35	3B C3
green	04998	024	61	35	3B 43
yellow	04934	022	62	35	3B 83
blue	05062	026	63	35	3B 03
TV	58162	117	16	67	3D F7
menu	62308	007	122	3	3F A1
top_menu	05106	123	19	35	3B 37
back	62301	206	230	3	3F 98
vol-	62402	250	31	3	3F 07
vol+	62274	246	30	3	3F 87
p-	62242	245	24	3	3F E7
p+	62370	249	25	3	3F 67
left	62432	235	91	3	3F 25
up	62212	004	124	3	3F C1
right	62304	231	90	3	3F A5
down	62436	011	123	3	3F 21
OK	62314	055	10	3	3F AF
func1	05042	121	17	35	3B 77
rew	05034	057	9	35	3B 6F
play	04890	180	4	35	3B DF
ffwd	04918	149	48	35	3B F3
func2	04986	183	2	35	3B BF
rec	04982	151	50	35	3B B3
stop	05010	120	21	35	3B 57
pause	04954	182	6	35	3B 9F
zoom	62451	131	147	3	3F 36
func3	62328	167	66	3	3F BD
func4	29244	197	96	15	0F F9
func5	29372	201	97	15	0F 79

Under Buttons, I assigned each button to a function.
Under Layout, Key Map, and Output I did not touch anything.
Under Output, I get

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Upgrade Code2 = 1E 61 (TV/7777) Und (RM v2.02 Beta 1.5w)
 00 98 3E 76 FA BF 3F 87 3F 07 3F C7 3F 67 3F E7
 3F 17 0F A7 3F A1 3F C1 3F 21 3F 25 3F A5 3F AF
 3B 57 3B B3 3B C3 3B 43 3B 83 3B 03 3F 98
KeyMoves
 22 F0 05 16 61 00 13 AA«rew»¦
 23 F0 05 16 61 00 13 1A«play»¦
 24 F0 05 16 61 00 13 5A«pause»¦
 25 F0 05 16 61 00 13 36«ffwd»
End

and

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Upgrade protocol 0 = 00 98 (S3F80) JVC Combo (RM v2.02 Beta 1.5w)
 43 8B 02 8B 19 CC D9 80 20 08 08 01 07 00 F4 01
 07 03 03 73 50 10 7C 08 2A 00 03 00 59 8C 8D 01
 46
End

Under General, I assigned setup code 7777 to button AUX.

But when I upload this and press AUX and then some buttons, then the remote sends totally different codes, like

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protocol = MCE, device = 4, subdevice = 15, obc = 1, misc = T=1
protocol = MCE, device = 4, subdevice = 15, obc = 2, misc = T=0
protocol = MCE, device = 4, subdevice = 15, obc = 3, misc = T=1

Could it be that the URC-2981 RDF isn't working properly, or am I doing something wrong?

[probono]

Now trying the keymove route.

From the Device Upgrade Editor, Functions tab I can see that the EFC5 code for Device 3, OBC 26 is 29282. Knowing this information, it was easy to set up a keymove using the "Key Moves" tab and entering TV, Setup Code 0653, EFC-5 29282. Now the AV button on the OFA remote behaves like the button on the OEM remote. This mission is accomplished, but I am still interested in getting the upgrade route to work as well.

[mdavej]

Post your files. Looks like you either picked the wrong device type in General or have VPT turned on.

[probono]

Which files? Assuming that you mean the jvc.rmdu that I created:

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Remote.name=URC 11-2981 R00
Remote.signature=329304
SegmentFlags=255
DeviceType=TV
DeviceIndex=0
SetupCode=7777
Protocol=00 98
Protocol.name=JVC Combo
FixedData=
Function.0.name=mute
Function.0.hex=3F C7
Function.1.name=power
Function.1.hex=3F 17
Function.2.name=1
...

As "Device Type" I had selected "TV". Do you mean "Volume Punch Through" with "VPT"? Yes, I have enabled that, is it a problem? Disabling it now... Also with all Punch Throughs disabled the situation does not change.

[mdavej]

RMDU and RMIR (or IR). And by post, I mean upload to the diag area of the file section, not post the text.

Volume Punch Thru remaps the vol keys, giving you unexpected results if you have any commands on those keys. Same goes for channel lock, if your remote has that.

[probono]

Done

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... e_id=11927

[3FG]

You have to assign the setup code to some device on the General tab. The remote has no way to know that you want to use that upgrade

Note that your remote (a JP1.4) is sufficiently new that a 7777 setup code is valid. Many older remotes are limited to 2047, and most JP1.3 remotes are limited to 4095. So 7777 may confuse some of us a bit.

[probono]

Interesting. I had assigned AUX in the General tab to TV, 7777, then uploaded. But when I download, the code is reset to Cable, 1272...

Now I changed the upgrade to use TV, 1111 and assigned that to AUX to in the General tab. Now it is no longer changed when being up- and downloaded, and voila, everything is working! (Tested it also with 4095, works too. So maybe mine has a limit as well.)

Thanks so much for your help!