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The Robman Site Owner
Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Posts: 21234 Location: Chicago, IL |
Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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embrion wrote: | Some ppl reported running out of EEPROM when teaching RCRP05B. Could someone confirm that? |
If by "teaching" you are referring to the remote's learning memory, the RCRP05B has about 2k of learning memory, which is twice the amount that most of our older remotes had. But it's less than remotes like the URC-8820N which has about 3k of learning memory.
Either way, most people with JP1 just use learning to capture the signals from their OEM remotes so that they can build an upgrade, at which point the learning memory is free again. _________________ Rob
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3FG Expert
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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For reference, a learned signal typically uses between 25 and 50 bytes, so 2K provides room for 40 or 50 learned buttons. But as Rob says, with a cable, we ordinarily use IR.exe to decode the learned signal, and build an upgrade from that.
That provides some advantages:
1) A learned signal typically has timing variations caused by both the OEM remote and the learning remote, but a decoded signal doesn't carry the variations of the OEM remote.
2) Some IR protocols toggle one bit each time the signal is sent. A learned signal won't be toggled, and e.g., a TV may have trouble recognizing that you intended to send 1-1-5 rather than 1-5 or perhaps 1-5-5.
3) There's a size advantage also--the same information that takes perhaps 50 bytes in a learned signal will require only 2 bytes if stored as a decoded signal.
4) Finally, it is much easier to share the information with other users. |
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wnewell
Joined: 13 Jan 2009 Posts: 158 Location: DFW, Texas |
Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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It has 2k allocated for learning and 2k allocated for upgrades. That will do about 50 learned buttons and a bunch of upgrades. |
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embrion
Joined: 30 Jun 2010 Posts: 36
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Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for answers.
Is it possible to add pause to macro for remote without extender available? For example for RCRP05B but I'd also like to know it this is device spefici feature or every JP1 remote can use pause in macros |
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The Robman Site Owner
Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Posts: 21234 Location: Chicago, IL |
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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Pause can be added without an extender. _________________ Rob
www.hifi-remote.com
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R2-M0
Joined: 14 Aug 2009 Posts: 92
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Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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The RCRP05B is a little odd when it comes to the Pause Protocol. You'll need a slightly tweaked version that uses a different protocol number than most remotes. But aside from that little detail, macro pauses work just fine on an (unextended) RCA. |
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embrion
Joined: 30 Jun 2010 Posts: 36
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:42 am Post subject: |
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Great news. Pause duration can also be specified? My TV needs a little time after powering on. |
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3FG Expert
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embrion
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:24 am Post subject: |
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This is really one of the most helpfull forums I'm at |
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nw
Joined: 10 Jul 2010 Posts: 30
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:05 am Post subject: |
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mdavej wrote: | As for the cool Euro models, I was thinking about the URC-7556 Digital 5 and similar:
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That is one really nice looking remote with well laid out keys.
Now that I have a RCRP05B coming to replace my missing Insignia DVD player remote, I am starting to notice the problem of remotes designed for cable boxes vs DVD players.
The ABCD button colors are in wrong order on a cable box remote for a DVD replacement, though I am sure I can override, still.
Also on the RCRP05B, I absolutely hate numeric keypads at the bottom, it makes no sense.
The URC-7556 pictured above would have been perfect (but impossible to get and others are too expensive anyway). |
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R2-M0
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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nw wrote: | The ABCD button colors are in wrong order on a cable box remote for a DVD replacement, though I am sure I can override, still. |
I have yet to encounter a DVD/BD that's actually made use of the ABCD color buttons. Of course, I rarely partake in the BD-Live extras, so maybe that's where I'm missing them. But I use A, B, and C all the time with my DVR, so I actually prefer them in "cable box order".
nw wrote: | Also on the RCRP05B, I absolutely hate numeric keypads at the bottom, it makes no sense. |
I so rarely use the numeric keypad, that I really don't care where it is as long as it's out of the way. For my money, the transport controls are the most important, followed by the menu navigation arrows.
Given the shape and center-of-gravity on the RCRP, my thumb naturally rests over the "OK" button. That's not too bad, but I think my ideal layout would have shifted both the transport and menu controls down, then moved the volume/channel and page/day keys to where the transport cluster is now. |
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tranx
Joined: 13 May 2012 Posts: 682 Location: Hants, UK |
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:54 am Post subject: |
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Resuscitating this thread for another beginner, like me, who might come across the question:-
Off the shelf, RCRP05B has 2047bytes of learning space, which is the same as, or more than, many learning remotes. It is enough for learning a full device like a pvr, with a bit left over, but imo is still a good reason on its own for JP1 |
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